Yeah, but guns don't screw your mind up and make you crazy. These PILLS do.

<font color = lightgreen>You don't like antidepressants, Ziroc? Or only some of them?

Prozac I would not recommend. However, many people have good results with Zoloft and Serzone, especially when taken with a small dose of Xanax. The mix of the serotonin inhibitors and the tricyclic antidepressant seem to work for many people.

Now, to get back on topic.... This kid was just another nutcase who should have been under medication and psychiatric counseling already. There is no way that all the adults in this kid's life missed all the obvious warning signs. Yes, lay the blame where it is due--at the feet of Mr. Weise--but only a moron won't connect the dots of someone dressing in Goth at high school....</font>

Ummm.... what do you think Prozac IS?

And I know some stable Gothic people too ;)

Ummm.... what do you think Prozac IS? </font>[/QUOTE]<font color = lightgreen> [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] Doesn't it beat a straight flush?

Forgive me--it was a long day by the time I wrote that. I can't always be perfect. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

I heard someone on a radio show talking about part of the Freedom Initiative (a plan that Bush et alii put together) is to have psychiatric screening for schoolchildren, including medication if need be. It will be a cold day in Niflheim (or is that a given? [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) before they medicate my son without my consent. I'll have to look into that further and possibly start a thread about it.</font>

I can recall atleast two:

In 2002 a 19 year old gunman killed sixteen students in Erfurt Germany.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1952869.stm

Also in 2002 a 17 year old gunman killed a teacher and wounded a second in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1958400.stm </font>[/QUOTE]Bosnia is not really Europe, it what would have been called the near East. Recent geo-political moves have made it become consiered a part of Europe It has different cultural values and traditions i think. Not trying to be defensive, but even given Michael Moore's hyperbole, the US does seem to have a larger problem with gun crime than most, comparable nations, i.e. without on-going internal conflicts, developed and stable government e.t.c.

[ 03-26-2005, 05:41 AM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

Please tell me you're not serious. Bosnia the near East? What does that make Greece? And since when do cultural values and traditions decide whether a country is in Europe? (Also, what's so different about their cultural values and traditions?) Sure, people define Europe differently, but nobody has gone as far to say that Bosnia, which is more to the West than Finland btw, isn't in Europe. And also, Bosnia has been a part of European history for a looooooong time.
(Sorry to change the topic a bit, but things like that just annoy me.)

Back to the topic. Does anybody know whether this boy was supervised (by a doctor)? They say he was on Prozac, and that he had been hospitalised once... A person like this needs to see a doctor every week... It's dumb if they just stuffed him with medicine and hope he'd be okay. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

[ 03-26-2005, 05:37 AM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

Sorry, my crap geography. To be fair, countries latitude is not always the best judge, "European" Russia, on my atlas extends past the western borders of Kazakstan. My point was re: the guns and attude towards them, the region has been war torn, and so the attitude to guns is likely to be different from that of the more 'stable' European countries.

Please tell me you're not serious. Bosnia the near East? What does that make Greece? And since when do cultural values and traditions decide whether a country is in Europe? (Also, what's so different about their cultural values and traditions?) Sure, people define Europe differently, but nobody has gone as far to say that Bosnia, which is more to the West than Finland btw, isn't in Europe. And also, Bosnia has been a part of European history for a looooooong time.
(Sorry to change the topic a bit, but things like that just annoy me.)
</font>[/QUOTE]Hm.. I don't know. My atlas doesn't show the non-EU countries. The only thing it does say at where Bosnia should have been, is 'here be dragons'. ;)

[ 03-26-2005, 06:22 AM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

Hmmm, the only reason I know about this is because Jeff Weise submitted a flash movie to newgrounds right before this.....

WARNING: Plenty of swearing in the responses to the flash (just angry people) plus the flash is pretty violent.....