MagiK, in your first couple of responses you refer to terrorists caught "in the field" while the points I was making go to citizens "in the States" who are caught in the net of this law due to a vague allegation of association with terror.

BTW, I think it is unconstitutional to limit association. If I want to send money to Al Queda and support its efforts to overthrow the US global tyranny, I *should* be allowed to do it. Shouldn't I? Ugh... ignore that -- it's an idea that I'm working on, but it has problems.

Yes, it was base of me to resort to poking at GWB's dim wits. Sometimes I hop from the Ivory Tower to the Ebony Tower.

<font color = lightgreen>I think the reason there is not more opposition to the Patriot Act is because the average American citizen doesn't dare raise any objection for fear they may be targeted. "You wouldn't object to the Act if you weren't trying to do something the Act forbids" etc.

You won't see widespread opposition to the Patriot Act until a highly visible American citizen suffers negatively due to the Act. "Excuse us, Rev. Graham, but we'd like to ask you a few questions about your so-called 'religious unity festival' you held in Riyadh last month" [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img]

Personally, I don't have anything to fear, unless they make some sort of connection with the name "Azred" [img]tongue.gif[/img] , but one of my exes would--she had many Middle Eastern friends and visited a couple of countries over there.

Only a fool couldn't see how the Patriot Act slaps the Constitution in the face. :rolleyes: </font>

In a perfect world I'd expect something more than a beer, for God's sake. At least a bottle of 12yo whiskey, please.


Of course. But...um...I'm kind of hoping you mean the phrase and the phrase ONLY.

>Enlightened Baatorian mode ON<

I think it's all a case of "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out", though less severe.

A policy where you are fully aware that you are risking some innocents, but are willing to do so in order to make sure that you are getting ALL the guilty people.

And besides, we are all going to die from some meaningless cause anyway. Why not let the cause be injustice? Especially when you are thus allowing the law enforcers and the military a clear shot at getting some people who could hurt a lot of your friends.

>Enlightened Baatorian mode OFF<

[ 07-11-2003, 04:25 AM: Message edited by: Indemaijinj ]