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Ahhh....I had to sign off and sign back on...refresh was doing nothing.
Absolutely awesome MILAMBER!
Absolutely!
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Originally posted by Moni:
Why am I seeing the one with the towers burning still?

Try refreshing. I am not hosting the one with the towers anymore so it is coming from your cache.

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Originally posted by Moni:
Why am I seeing the one with the towers burning still?

I dunno...that used to happen to me on here...I'd post and it would take hours for my post to show up. Well I understand about the tests tomorrow. This has to be one of the worst times to expect people to concentrate on school or anything else for that matter. Don't worry we will find something uplifting to do this weekend I promise.

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Refresh wasn't working...I had to sign off and sign on again completely.
Excellent sig!

I am off to bed...for reals...I slept most of the day but I know I can't hang out all night and be alert in the morning.
Goodnight
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[This message has been edited by Moni (edited 09-14-2001).]

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[B} *BIG HUG* KHaN! Thanks http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif[/B]

Anytime sweetheart! I hope you dream tonight.

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[Not being an American, it cannot be expected for you to fully appreciate it but knowing the view that a majority of Eurpoeans have of Americans and America, your opinion of them is understood, at least by me. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
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Moni, when I read that last comment, my stomach turned over. I could be misunderstanding your intent here, so forgive me in advance, please, if I have..... but Moni, I am 64, almost 65. Think about that. I was brought up during world war 2. I had bombs dropping close to my home. My parents were out almost every night doing ambulance duty (mom was a nurse) or firewatching (dad was a fireman). We spent most nights with our grandparents and we never knew if our mom and dad would come home. We had anti-aircraft barrages just at the top of our road, and the stuttering of their guns every night and often during the day, Grman bombers were frequently overflying our home on the way to bomb the local airport, and mistaking the new roading at one end of our roead for the airport runways, and bombing it.
You Americans have NEVER had your precious flesh touched on the scale that we in the UK have. NEVER. And even the UK was not touched as much as the rest of Europe.
And NOW the middle Eastern countries have suffered terrible loss of life in bombings and missile attackes while the American soldiery stayed home 'cos 'American soldiers musn't be hurt'.
I'm stopping now, 'cos I'm getting incoherant and may go way over the top.
And I still hate jingoism.

Not getting at you, Moni, nor Americans, really, but, much as my heart goes out to you there is a little bit of me that keeps saying 'maybe NOW they get some understanding of the rest of the world's anguish'. WE understand America's suffering. It is so sad that America seems blind to anyone elses.
Sorry. I just had to say it.

If you want to kick me off the forum, so be it.

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Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
Moni, when I read that last comment, my stomach turned over. I could be misunderstanding your intent here, so forgive me in advance, please, if I have..... but Moni, I am 64, almost 65. Think about that. I was brought up during world war 2. I had bombs dropping close to my home. My parents were out almost every night doing ambulance duty (mom was a nurse) or firewatching (dad was a fireman). We spent most nights with our grandparents and we never knew if our mom and dad would come home. We had anti-aircraft barrages just at the top of our road, and the stuttering of their guns every night and often during the day, Grman bombers were frequently overflying our home on the way to bomb the local airport, and mistaking the new roading at one end of our roead for the airport runways, and bombing it.
You Americans have NEVER had your precious flesh touched on the scale that we in the UK have. NEVER. And even the UK was not touched as much as the rest of Europe.
And NOW the middle Eastern countries have suffered terrible loss of life in bombings and missile attackes while the American soldiery stayed home 'cos 'American soldiers musn't be hurt'.
I'm stopping now, 'cos I'm getting incoherant and may go way over the top.
And I still hate jingoism.

Not getting at you, Moni, nor Americans, really, but, much as my heart goes out to you there is a little bit of me that keeps saying 'maybe NOW they get some understanding of the rest of the world's anguish'. WE understand America's suffering. It is so sad that America seems blind to anyone elses.
Sorry. I just had to say it.

If you want to kick me off the forum, so be it.

Fljotsdale, I know that this is not the point of your post, and I swear, I'm not making light. I just wanted to know what jingoism is. I've tried to find it, and cant seem to.

BTW...You have sincere hugs from *this* yank. I'm only 29, so I've only read and seen on documentaries what you lived through. But, to the extent that I can, I empathize with you.

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Originally posted by Nachtrafe:
Fljotsdale, I know that this is not the point of your post, and I swear, I'm not making light. I just wanted to know what jingoism is. I've tried to find it, and cant seem to.

BTW...You have sincere hugs from *this* yank. I'm only 29, so I've only read and seen on documentaries what you lived through. But, to the extent that I can, I empathize with you.

Jingoism: blustering, ostentatious patriotism. Flag-waving, war-mongering, belligerance. (Oxford Complete Wordfinder)

People can be patriotic without making a show of it. To most Brits, jingoism is just rather disgusting. It makes me feel ill, as it is usually a precursor to war propaganda and war. Sorry. Upbringing!

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Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
Jingoism: blustering, ostentatious patriotism. Flag-waving, war-mongering, belligerance. (Oxford Complete Wordfinder)

People can be patriotic without making a show of it. To most Brits, jingoism is just rather disgusting. It makes me feel ill, as it is usually a precursor to war propaganda and war. Sorry. Upbringing!

Thanks for the hugs http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Much appreciated!

Got it. Yeah...I can see where that might get tired. I've been in kind of 'Ultra-Patriot' mode myself the last couple of days. I'm trying to tone down a bit. I just made the sig, and am going to try and leave it at that.

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I had relatives in WWII. Some of the stories they tell curl my toes. I had hoped that my children would never have to hear the same things. I still do. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

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I understand you a little bit better after your last post there F. Like Nachtrafe said, we have been a little on the patriotic side recently, but that's not because we are war mongers or anything like that. It is more to show support to eachother that we do this. Once again, I'm sorry if this bothers you, but please try to view it with our original intent in mind.

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