thanks for replying a an b.i like meteorstorm outside but i was thinking hands of time would be better for crowd control in a confined area like boogre prison when fighting the salads/weeds.im very thankful i found this site.its making the game much more enjoyable.didnt know about casting thru trees-a very helpful hint!last nite i ported mekdawa into the windmill basement and cast dementia on him-his own personal insane asylym!!!cya later friends!