Faceman: Sure - I know that and you know that (and now KamadorWizard does, too), but I didn't think everybody would their first time through the game (esp. in Ch2) [img]smile.gif[/img]

You're right of course. It's my inner smartass ;) I try to keep him down, but sometimes he just gets out ;)

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My first time taking on that lich, I ran out of the crypt and the inn right after he summoned the pit fiend, not knowing that the lich and the fiend would follow me and absolutely destroy the Gates District. I never knew one little screen could contain quite so much flaming destruction. The good citizens (rightly) realized that I started the whole thing and my reputation took a real dive.


... Anyway, KamadorWizard (if you're still reading this), the strategy of "put forward one negative-plane protected character and have the rest shoot from a distance" is a good one, until later on when some vampires get wise to it and go after only non-protected characters.

You wanna kill a lich? Summon a skeleton warrior... if he 'death-spells' it, summon another...

Of course, you must be lvl15 for that and that can be a problem...

Well, just wear amulet of power... Aran Linvail gives it to you in the first time you talk to him... if you do not meet the class requirements, negative plane protection, as my conrad dundee said, will not bother the cowled ones cuz its a priest spell...

You should memorize lesser restoration too, after the battle, if there is anyone level-drained, just cast it...

cya

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It takes a little bit more than just summoning two skels....
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actually, it doesnt work like that. even if the vamp hits the image, your mage gets level drained. it may have been intended to work like you mentioned, but it doesnt. sucks, dont it? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry to contradict, but Faceman is right. As long as at least one Image is active, there is only a 1 in (# of Images + 1) chance that the real you will get hit, even against things like Level Drain--heck, even against things like Cloudkill. ("Of course I can breathe this toxic gas! I'm protected by an Illusin spell!")

Oh Snap!! Does this work for all non arcane spells? If so, how can you tell if it is non-arcane!?

There are 4 types of spells.

Arcane (Mage/Sorcerer/Bard)

Divine (Paladin/Druid/Cleric/Ranger)

Innate (can overlap with Arcane or Divine)

Class (can overlap with Arcane or Divine)

Oh Snap!! Does this work for all non arcane spells? If so, how can you tell if it is non-arcane!? </font>[/QUOTE]Generally:
Arcane = Wizard spell = SPWIxx (resource name)
Divine = Priest spell = SPCLxx (resource name)

So for the most spells it's as simple as having your mages/sorcerers/bards do nothing and your clerics/druids/rangers/paladins cast the spells you need.
If innate spells or spell used by items are equal to a normal spell (e.g. Sunray from Daystar) they are mostly (not always) treated like this spell.
This can lead to really annoying glitches. In earlier versions of the game for example Keldorn's sword (the Hallowed Redeemer, which does magic damage to opponents who hit Keldorn in melee combat) - This sword's effect was flagged as an arcane spell, thus causing the Cowleds to appear everytime Keldorn got attacked by some sorry mugger.

Correct me if im wrong BUT isnt the *Dayster*in the chest NOT on the lich,the lich only got some wands but behind him you find a chest and there you will find *Dayster*So no pickpocket needed.And the lich is veary easy : He does protection spells and then time stops,When he does time stop run upp and rest(Hes doing a spell so he wont follow you)And after you rested go down agin he will do some new protection spells and when he starts on a new time stop run up to the inn keeper and rest agin (The lich wont follow if he is doing a spell)AND now fix protection spells and go down,now he is *Clean*And easy to hit so he maybi does a protection from magic weapons but then do spells on him(IF your not playing a solo fighter,Paladin,Ranger,thief,barbarian,monk or any other *non spell casting*Class.This is the tactic im doing on liches..On vampires it NPP And/Or Amulet of power+a good unded weapon : The unded mace +1 or imporved+2,Dayster,And the trowing axe (Cant remember its name) you find it in cc.And another tactic is *turn unded* but you might not be that level that is required to destroy an unded whit *Turn unded*.This is all i got at this moment but if i find any more (And BETTER tactics)I come here and say ..Good luck Sonic.