Here ya go:
http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/SixSig.jpg
Now you must be careful not to offend me, because you don't know what I can put on the end of that link... [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img]

I still think that Phaere's abduction and an inimical MF lair are a pretty big obstacle to any treaty. If Phaere wasn't connected to the matron mother Ardulace, it could be possible, but this way...
You'd just have to think all this through again, won't you?

MF emissaries could be from the Hidden, trying to break the enmity. But they could be local ones, who want to negotiate the terms for returning Phaere.

Ah, and Raevilin Strathi (UDTRAP02) can indeed be healed. All praise the Infinity Explorer user-friendliness.

[ 07-07-2003, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: Vedran ]

Woohoo! Thanks, Vedran! But it seems that Ziroc has put yet another annoying restriction on us--when I updated my signature, I was notified that it was "too long." Too long, my ass. I had to chop off "New and Improved" and "Sorry about the popup ads" to get the thing past the filter. Time for a request to Ziroc.....

I agree, the "Phaere ambush" is a stumbling block for any Drow/Mind Flayer plot, and must be taken into account in designing any quest such as the one I've outlined. Still, it's not like it's anything that WE created: Both the MF emissaries in Ust Natha and the Phaere ambush were in the original game, so BioWare gets all the credit for opening this particular can of worms.

What worries me is the Unseeing Eye connection: I like the idea of the Hidden wanting to stage a blitzkrieg against the Unseeing Eye, but the chapter disparity poses a problem: If you can't enter the Temple Sewers Illithid lair until Chapter 6, how would the Hidden react to your already having dealt with the Unseeing Eye yourself, in Chapter 3? Which leads to 3 alternatives:</font>

• No Unseeing Eye until Chapter 6 -> No Keldorn until Chapter 6 = Bad.</font>
• Yes, Keldorn in Chapter 2, but no Gauntlets until Chapter 6 = Equally Bad.</font>
• Keldorn, Gauntlets, and most of Unseeing Eye in Chapter 2, but you can't kill the Eye yourself until Chapter 6 = Tolerable, but incredibly awkward.</font>

You'd have to rewrite major section of the U.E. quest, and might the Hidden actually reward you? Not likely.

As for Raevilin Strathi, I'm quite surprised at this whole thing, especially if he rewards you with a sword, since he doesn't drop one when you kill him.

A nitpick: there can't be more than one alternative, because alter (lat.) = second. Alternative would literally mean second-born.

You begin with the conception that the key is in MF lair downunder. That implies friendship between Hidden and them.
Fourth option:
move the key to another location, say:
-Jan's quest: go find the Hidden and force him to cure the girl, and you somehow get the key from him. Perhaps he begins to like you (heh).
-We put few of MFs anywhere (in the sewers, Graveyard, etc)

Fifth option:
move the gauntlets.

Something about Illithid way of life:

Haven't posted here in awhile...sorry 'bout that... :(

Anyway, I just wanted to say that production on this mod is well underway. So far, one quest is completely finished (Pai'Na's Spider Bane quest), and four more are nearing completion (Boo's kidnapping, the missing lenses of the Rhynn Lanthorn, Gorje Hilldark and the extended illithium quest, and the restoration of the Suna Seni/Valygar relationship).

I will hopefully be able to release a second alpha version sometime in the next few days. Anyone interested in beta testing, please email me at icelus@houston.rr.com.

In the meantime, however, what I really, desperately need ASAP is someone who can help write a bit of dialog for me. I need someone who is familiar with dwarvish conversation, especially insults...lol. If you happen to know a few words of the Duergar language, even better! PLEASE contact me ASAP, either via this forum, or via email. Your help will be greatly appreciated!!!

Hey, I'll gladly beta test for you. I was just wondering the other day if someone had made a mod that fixed all the unfinished quests, or if it was in the works.

Just pm me or catch me on AIM/MSN - oddball735 and breakaway86@hotmail.com

Great idea btw!

WooHOO! Kudos to all MODders out there, especially those who actually get things done. Unfortunately, I'm too busy to help with this at the moment, because I promised everyone at Ironworks that I'd have the Rebalanced Wizard Slayer MOD and the Item-Balancing MOD completed this summer--and it's already August. Where did the time go? I need to finish my first Tactics game and get crackin' on my WeiDU.

yeah Six, i've done this myself. after the conversation he starts casting, but nothing aggressive or to disrupt your casting. have a healer talking to him. when he turns read, cast 'heal' and whoops he can speak again.

Um...WHAT?

Um...WHAT? </font>[/QUOTE]SPOILER


The guy in Watchers Keep, level *3*...the insane one. You can cure his insanity by casting a healing spell on him, but the first person that talks to him must be a healer. He was saying that the crazy guy starts casting spells after the conversation, but nothing that damages you or disrupts your casting. Then, once the guy turns aggressive (red feedback circle), he casted heal on the guy and he became sane.

[ 08-04-2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Pyrenk ]

They are talking about the Imprisoned loony in the Underdark, not the WK's one.