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Alson 12-28-2002 10:00 AM

Yes, the Fighter/Illusionist is a fun fight. [img]smile.gif[/img]

What version of the Tactics Mod do you have, Sever?
Up until version 4 the Gnome and his familiars were heavy cheaters... Illusionist casting Skull Trap, 9th levels spells in a Chain Contingency, illegal targeting, that sort of things... ;)

Rataxes 12-28-2002 10:03 AM

Odd, my one saving grace vs him was the fact that he actually missed me a few times [img]smile.gif[/img]

Wouldn't this shimmering effect improve his AC though? I thought Improved Invisibility gave the attacker a -4 to all attack rolls.

He also seems to have quite a few Superior healing potions, or if they were just large ones.

Alson 12-28-2002 11:19 AM

Heh... What was your AC?

The shimmering effect should indeed lower his AC, THAC0 and saves by 4. Then again, maybe Tor'Gal uses an 'external' effect which only prevents targeting... Weimer holds the answer. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 12-28-2002, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Alson ]

Rataxes 12-28-2002 11:42 AM

Not that great. I was dual-wielding, didn't actually have any AC-boosting items except for a Ring +1. I'm guessing maybe -5 or something in the neighbourhood [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sever 12-28-2002 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alson:
Yes, the Fighter/Illusionist is a fun fight. [img]smile.gif[/img]

What version of the Tactics Mod do you have, Sever?
Up until version 4 the Gnome and his familiars were heavy cheaters... Illusionist casting Skull Trap, 9th levels spells in a Chain Contingency, illegal targeting, that sort of things... ;)

I don't know what version i've got, but i do know the little bastard WAS cheating. Spells such as Fire storm, meteor swarm and stoneskin are not classed as 'illusion'. Maybe it was his pets that cast the first two, but if they cast the third on him then they's cheatin' big time.

The thing that really surprised me, though, was the fact that he could hit a -10 armour class character 75% of the time (at -14 with improved invis, he was still hitting me at least 50% of the time). Does anyone know his stats, THACO etc.

Alson 12-28-2002 04:44 PM

Sever, just because he's an illusionist doesn't prevent him from casting not illusionary spell like Stoneskin and Meteor Swarm. ;) Being an illusionist just prevents him from casting spells from the opposite school - Necromancy.

Now, for his stats.
He is a level 18/20 Gnomish Fighter/Illusionst.
STR 18/89, DEX 18, CON 16, WIS 8, INT 10, CHA 8.
129 HP, 3 attack per round.
Saves 2/4/4/2/1.

Anything else?

Rataxes 12-28-2002 04:51 PM

Sheez, I'm surprised he can keep a single spell in his head at once with that INT, or with that WIS even know what the hell he's doing [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sever 12-29-2002 02:26 AM

So that's how it works. All makes sense now.

His powerful melee is consistent with his level/stats, but Rataxes is right about the INT and WIS. Doesn't that seem too low for what he is?

BTW - i'm using 4th edition Tactics mod, so i guess the midget wasn't cheating after all.

drewal 12-29-2002 05:39 AM

A gnome with 18/89! Quite unusual.

Improved Bodhi still ranks as the toughest fight i've seen, though I have not fought against improved (sp) Ilyich as I installed tactics mod post-Irencius dungeon.

drewal 12-29-2002 05:40 AM

A gnome with 18/89! Quite unusual.

Improved Bodhi still ranks as the toughest fight i've seen, though I have not fought against improved (sp) Ilyich as I installed tactics mod post-Irencius dungeon.


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