dang that's awefully uber of them, and I thought Hackmaster's battlemages were bad (can cast multiple spells at the same time, as long as they're fireball, or missile type spells such as a skipping betty fireball, magic missile, and lava yield fireball assuming proper level, yes very dangerous spellcasters)

I think they toned it down again in 3.5, I'm not entirely sure on that one though.

All in all however, regardless of details, all high level mages are big trouble.

Hehe. I sometimes feel Andrion is too powerful...

[ 01-24-2005, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: dplax ]

heh, regardless of system as well, whether it's Mage the ascension, AD&D, D&D, Hackmaster, Gurps, etc, etc.

I really need to update myself on the new rules. Still stuck in 2nd Ed.

<font color=silver>In this game - haste has never allowed the casting of more than one spell per round. It also does not allow the caster to decrease the casting time of a spell. Don't count on that changing except for DM interventions on a case by case basis. In other words - at Larry's discretion.</font>

[ 01-24-2005, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: Cyril Darkcloud ]

Don't think of it as stuck in an old edition, think of it as fighting the man, Hasbro(now owner of WotC) can burn in heck before I'll buy version 3.76125.

{edit} Huzzah, new avatar.

[ 01-24-2005, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

I'm with you there mate.

Anyways, I'm back, so I'l read up tonight. I hear that the fight is about to begin.

Cool beans Morg [img]smile.gif[/img] yeah Im all anxious about this coming epic battle, hehe Hopefully my aim will be true for once, I've had bad luck on called shots on these here boards :D

rolled blue speckle, my trusty set I keep in the office, got a 15, with aiming and surprise, I would assume this is indeed a hit

damage rolled on the d6, is 5

also mirror image will have one of two effects, create several visible images (while he remains hidden), or create invisible images which will have no real effect until the invisibility is gone (they cause no effect because IIRC the images don't actually make noise, or give off scent, they merely fool the eye into seeing false images, which is enough to throw off most atackers)

If invisibilty is dealt with as a small field (suggested about 1-2 inches from the casters skin) then anything outside of that would be visible. It makes sense if the caster carries a ten foot 2x4 (rather than have the whole thing invisible it would be completely visible while the caster who carries it would be invisible). Or it could simply make the caster and all carried items invisible. In the same situation the 2x4 would be invisible, and a very effective weapon (set it up as a trip-wire, etc)

In the first case the images would be visible, but not the caster, in the second the caster and images would be invisible. (if you're looking for a simple answer, I'd just say #2)

{editted for clarity}

[ 01-25-2005, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]