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Lol I just got the blue dagger for my rogue from AV. All that effortless work... gone to waste!

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Well, I'm now at 59 and have replaced most of my armour blues with greens. I'm still wielding the same weapons though because I already had a comparable weapon at 51 which I had mongoose applied to. Here's what I did:

Helm: Helm of Fire (blue) --> Veteran's Skullcap (green)
Neck: Sentinel's Medallion (blue, 48) --> Imbued Chain (green)
Shoulders: Spaulders of the Unseen (blue) --> Miner's Brace (green)
Chest: Blazewind Breastplate (green) --> Jerkin of the Untamed Spirit (blue) --> Vengeance Chestpiece of the Bandit (green) [I replaced twice]
Wrists: Forest Stalker Bracers (purple) [Not replaced yet]
Gloves: Gloves of Holy Might (purple) --> Thick Draenic Gloves (green)
Waist: Highlander's Leather Girdle (blue, 58) [Not replaced yet]
Legs: Blackstorm Leggings (blue, I crafted myself via Elemental LW) --> Flayer Hide Leggings (green) --> Vengeance Legpiece of the Bandit (green) [I replaced twice]
Feet: Highlander's Leather Boots (blue, 58) [Not replaced yet]


I thought of swapping out my Krol Blade for the Foe Reaver you get on that first Outland quest to kill the demons (it had slightly higher base dmg at 151 vs 149 though it was 2.6 instead of 2.8) but I already had Mongoose on the Krol Blade so I decided to hang on to it till I get to 60 and get get one of the pvp rewards.

Also, I got an insane chest item as a reward for blowing up some buildings (easiest quest if you are a rogue) - Jerkin of the Untamed Spirit but then I replaced it an hour later when I got a green Bandit drop (I prefer the Bandit one for pvp).

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Looking good.

Agreed - it's worth hanging onto Kroll for a while yet, especially with Mongoose on it - 120 agi at your sort of level will give you insane amounts of crit and dodge.

I had the Jerkin of Untamed spirit for a while on both my chars - better yet for my Feral Druid as the "higher than norm" armor was great for tanking. You'll find a better rogue item though soon enough towards the end of HFP - Darkstorm Tunic. I had that right up until 69 when I got my Chestguard of the Dark Stalker.

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What do you think of my spec? What do you think I need to replace? I'm going to play pvp at 59 for a while. I know I need a new cloak - I'm hoping to get the one from the HC quest. And I went to get a new Protectors Band (58) last night but when I arrived at the Silverywing lodge I realised I'd forgotten to bring my WSG marks! :mad:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen'jin&n=Scabandari

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Your spec looks to be a good compromise between a levelling and a PvP spec (I was the same, as it sounds like you enjoy to do a little of both PvE and PvP). Combat is generally the way to go for levelling. Subtlety offers several handy tricks and there are several key PvP talents in there. Assassination offers great burst DPS potential - burst DPS is pretty devastating (for example, quickly earning 5 combo points through Seal Fate, then activating Cold Blood and landing a 5 point critical Eviscerate which will tear through all but the toughest plate).

I played with a twist on the original Cookie Cutter build when I was 60, which was amazing for Stunlocking but it just doesn't hit hard enough (great for annoying people though!). I then respecced to Mutilate/Combat which was great fun, did amazing damage and was good for PvE but was tricky to pull off in PvP, mainly because of the need to constantly position yourself behind the enemy which can be hard against classes that can kite you and is especially problematic when dealing with lag! It was however very satisfying pinning an enemy with an Improved Kidney Shot (and therefore having Expose Weakness up) and then performing a Cold Blood Mutilate against a poisoned enemy - supreme damage! Now I've respecced to a hybrid build of all 3 trees now that I have my Gladiator's Slicer/Gladiator's Quickblade which is my PvE Grinding and PvP Battleground spec until I get all my gear up to scratch.

When I have enough resilience I will start running arena and respec to the sickening AR/Hemo build (which every level 70 rogue and his mother is currently using, and for GOOD reason). This build is almost too good in arena but fairly useless for anything else and VERY cooldown dependent which means you can kick butt once every 10 minutes...

As for your equipment - you have some great items for your level. As a general rule, try to aquire items that have raw attack power/hit rating/crit rating on them, as these are generally more beneficial for rogues than pure stats. Also, don't worry about items with str on them - str offers nothing that agility doesn't, and agility provides additional offensive and defensive bonuses. In an ideal world, your items with have agi/sta/AP/HR and CR so there are still a broad range of things to look out for. So really, a new necklace might be your order of the day.

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Thanks mate - I originally had no points in the Sub tree - those 10 were in Combat as I had 5/5 Combat Potency and 1/1 Surprise Attack among others. But my playing style in BGs is to stealth and gank/cap so I wanted the 5/5 Camouflage for PvP. When I start to level again I will get CP back.

BTW, what's more important of these three?

AP
HR
CR

If I had to choose between them? Eg is +10 HR better than +10 AP?

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PVE = HR>AP>CR
PVP = CR>AR>HR

Just keep a seperate pve items and pvp items.

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Yep that's pretty much what I'd shoot for too. If you have 5/5 in Precision then all your yellow attacks will not miss against a PvP target (they can still be dodged, parried etc) so HR is less significant then. Otherwise, I'd gather together sufficient HR to overcome the -5% miss chance, as there's nothing more annoying than that opener missing! Even with precision your white attacks are still responsible for most of the total damage, and they will suffer something like -19% miss rate, so HR is still beneficial to your overall damage, PvE or PvP.

CR is good for burst damage, and burst damage is good for PvP, just keep in mind that at 70 crit chance and crit damage become diminished due to resilience. At 70 I'd rather stack right up on AP, as that gives you reliable, sustainable damage.

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As I have 5/5 in Precision I should focus on getting my AP up then for PVP? My numbers are:

AP 810 approx.
HR 16 (I can increase this to 26 at the cost of 30AP)
Crit Chance (18.5%) (I can increase this to just under 21 at the cost of heaps of AP and dropping my HR down to 0)

As a reminder I am level 59 and am combat sword spec (as you know).

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Ok, my armory seems ok now. It was in error for some time. This is me.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Remar&n=Kapuka

Just take a look at my AP and HR. MUAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

Oh, the picture on the earlier post as a joke. I just use it to marvel at myself dual wielding the warglaive. :P

Just need a few more upgrades and I'll be fully epic. I'll be respecting back to my favourite 19/42 combat sword once I had my epic mount.

Oh, in case some of you wondering why I'm back in the game. Let this be a lesson, if someone said do not talk anything about wow and the drama in the guild in his email. Respect his view please. Or else he's gonna reload and reinstall the game and then quit the guild and join another. ;)

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Welcome back! I still have a problem with my armory - it's still showing my spec from 2 days ago, plus it's showing the Flayer leggings I was wearing over a week ago.

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Yeah, lol. I just thought I'd answer the question, because it's not like I hadn't considered that loot. Besides once you get into balancing gear stats for your class, whichever class it is, it becomes an interesting discussion to me. Is +spell hit gear better than +spell damage or crit? Well, the answer is yes, up to a point. That point is a different target for each caster class. The same is true for other classes with stats like +stam vs. +dodge or +block; +AP vs. +Agi or +Str; etc.

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Don't think he's talking about you mate - he's talking about the post from the spambot I deleted just below yours.

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<font color="cyan">Ah the old spell hit/damage debate.

In my opinion, for a Warlock, spell hit is the greatest stat. Especially if your destruction, not so much affliction. But still greatest.

The cap of 202 is the first thing you should aim for, even if it lowers your spell damage.

But if you see my gear, you'll notice my spell hit is lacking at the moment. Ive been so unlucky with drops, in 6 months ive not seen the 3 kara spell hit items, and never managed to get Maggys ring or T4 chest.....even though ive seen them drop so much.

Also trying to get Lurkers belt, as its better than the ZA badge reward belt. but we will see!

Currently starting to get t5 bits, hopefully it will improve soon.

And ive also not managed to get the Card trinket :( I have the gold, but I wanna try to save for epic flying with the exp so close. You might need the epic flying skill to progress riding in Northrend!

Edit - Oh, and my warrior alt Ratenu hit 60 last night, got his epic mount w00t.

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Hey guys, good to see us all having fun in WoW still. I play mage , Thuvia on Hellscream, and a 70 priest. I also have a 66 lock on Kirin Tor. A few other 60's but never play them. They are gnomes, man they get tough to look at.

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I went back to Timber's realm to get started on my warrior, but after looking at all the Alliance there just waiting to get ganked, and even after flagging myself, /taunting, doing whatever i could to get them to attack me, they wouldn't give me two looks before turning back to their mobs :(

BTW Timber i respecced and will pay you back the 10g.. Outlands quests give massive rewards.

Thelva 70 undead mage
Gigitygigity 70 troll rogue
Burnzey 70 Orc Warrior
Double 61 orc shaman
Kistien 61 blood elf Paladin
Feelinhordey 51 orc huntard
Fortold 37 BE priest

The rest i am not working on as of yet.. And through bitter rage i transferred my lock to another server cause i was angry at being camped. I want to transfer him back, but i figure WotlK is out soon so yeah..

DEATH KNIGHT PHWOAAARRR!!!! P.S.. I just wanted to show off my 70s :P

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Ok... even though years ago I swore I'd never do it (even played GW for a while to distract myself), a few weeks ago I bit the bullet and bought WoW... and I'm sorry to say, it's actually pretty fun.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...alyon&n=Jaradu

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<font color="cyan"> Lol Jaradu. Why Gnome? :(


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Because it's more humiliating when I kill you! :evillaugh2:

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Well... after some consideration, I decided to try out the 14-day trial. Have created a Tauren on Lightninghoof, a RP-PVP realm.

This is going to sound absurd, but I am planning to make him a "peace-loving" Shaman, with professions in Herbalism and Alchemy.

I just like the idea of a hulking Tauren being a weed-puffing hippy. Plucking flowers and making potions for the Horde to imbibe on.

So far so good. Just wondering when I will first get slaughtered, since I have proverbially thrown myself into the Lion's Den by not choosing a Normal Realm.

Cheers.

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Nice! I assume you will go Restoration when time comes to choose a spec? That would fit in with your theme.

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/me looks at Talent print-out.

Actually, after some reading up, I twinkled around with the Talent Calculator and came up with a build that has 50 points in Enhancement, and 11 points in Restoration.

I figured that since I got Healing and Defence down with me potions, I need some punch to round out my character. I'm being peace-loving here, not a pacifist. Big difference.

Or to put it another way, don't bug me when I'm harvesting. :P

Cheers.

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One of my shammy alts is enhancement - good choice.

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I play Ratmorgue 50 undead 'lock on Spirestone, feel free to look me up.

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Yay! Dundee's finally got WoW :) I think you'll love it. I've been waiting for you to pick it up so we can start number crunching again. There is a whole World of Theorycraft out there afterall :D.

Tauren are a good choice - I have a 70 Tauren Druid on Xavius (EU realm):

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...s&n=Bantumgraw

Unfortunately I went to the "dark" side and changed to Restoration, mostly because Feral Combat just couldn't cut it in arena. I think the highest we ever managed in our 2v2 bracket was 1805 in season 3. Now in S4 we've only played 3 weeks worth of 10 games and we're up to 1660 rating already - shame this spec is no fun :(

My Rogue is coming along quite nicely too, although we did just get that annoying Cheat Death nerf last patch (and a sneaky one to Hemo too ffs!).

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...avius&n=Kalesh

His gear still needs some work though!

Mem how's your rogue doing? Have you decided to stay at 69?

Jim

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<font color="cyan">Nothing wrong with Herb/Alch shamans...

Thats what mine is, although he will be Resto. Levelling to 70 as Enhance though ofc :)

I have one character of every class now as well, even one dedicated to Mr timber.

My Rogue is called Ingafel :)</font>

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LOL no I'm planning to ding soon. I would have dinged a month ago but my folks visited me here in Boston so I haven't been logged on much (plus I got myself a PS3 and have been busy with GTA4). What's annoying is that I spent about a month grinding the S1 welfare epics that you can buy with honor so that I wouldn't be a noob in greens and blues when I started with arena and BGs at 70, then when I finally got my set (armour, weps, rings etc) they decide to make S2 available for honor!! :mad:

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Is this the right thread?

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<font color="cyan">Yes :P</font>

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This is just one of my newer Alts, but I am having a lot of fun playing with him. Speaking in 3rd-person, making corny lines, etc... His very name was born from a terrible pun, and a play of words on what Warriors depend on heavily in order to be victorious. It also helps that the drink contains plenty of Taurine... hence its name in the first place.

"Ragebull gives you wins!"

http://sigs.guildlaunch.net/wsig.php/5403855btZjA.png

Heh.

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<font color="cyan">It's actually a very clever name tbh :P</font>

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<font color="cyan">Just an update -

Bloodscalp EU - Europe

Ultemicia - Level 70 Undead Destruction Warlock - Fighting Kiljaeden
Ratenu - Level 70 Tauren Protection Warrior
Tungusic - Level 70 Orc Restoration Shaman
Ingafel - Level 63 Blood Elf Rogue - Levelling In Progress
Ivaine - Level 12 Blood Elf Priest (third attempt at priest)
Altariel - Level 22 Blood Elf Mage
Senzin - Level 19 Troll Hunter
Ruetan - Bank Alt Level 12 Druid
Lavindathar - Level 6 Blood Elf Paladin
Mawdesley - Name saver for my DK

Think thats all :)</font>

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Hmm just got into WoW! Hooraay sell-out! sell-out! Okay kidding. It's great ;)

Coilfang US server

Prepositus, Level 25 Blood Elf Paladin (Levelling in progress, first character in WoW, first character I have re-rolled in decades)

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Level 80 Retribution Paladin - Azeuzar on Ghostlands server - stopped playing shortly after the release of Ulduar though as the game kinda went numb on me after four years - but truth be told - four years is the longest any game ever kept me in thrall so I must admit that Blizzard hit the correct recipe.

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Dawgxx-level 80 Nightelf Hunter (marksman specced) on Nordrassil

Also have a few lower level chars that so far mainly functioned as a bank, but i'll definitely level up in time, such as my Pala (currently lvl 17), DK (lvl55), Druid (lvl2), and Warrior (lvl2)

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Scabandari - 80 NE rogue Sen Jin
Skauras - 80 human DK Sen Jin
Jikuyin - 67 draenei mage Sen Jin
Iblis - 59 orc DK Dalaran

And a myriad of twinks on a number of servers

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Sarahss - 80 Undead Priest Frostmourne
Dessaryth - 80 Rogue BE Frostmourne
Dudeadin - 67 Pally BE Frostmourne

And as with Memnoch, a crapton of alts spread across the realms.

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Btw...i respecced to survival after noticing that my DPS was hardly improving. After respeccing, switching some gems here and there, and a new gun from ToTC hc, my last DPS recount in an instance was 4.5K, so far for lacking DPS. :D

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Ok, one more update

Nordrassil EU

Dawgxx -lvl85-Nightelf survival hunter
Fondle-lvl85-human retribution paladin
Undygnome-lvl85-Gnome arcane mage
Ronian-lvl85-Nightelf balance druid
Worgenfriman-lvl85- Worgen shadowpriest
Ruffneck-lvl85-human frost Deathknight
Worgasms-lvl77-Worgen fury warrior
Dawgiebank-lvl24-Dwarven fury warrior
Azadar-lvl85-Undead destruction warlock
Wasntmee-lvl66-Bloodelf rogue

Terokkar EU

Hokustokus-lvl85- Dranei elemental shaman
Bowwjobb-lvl41-Bloodelf survival hunter
Underneathya-freshly rolled lvl1 goblin mage (going frost for purely pvp)
Moobarak-lvl9-Tauren arms warrior

14 chars so far, yep i'm a busy bee LOL