The forecasts say we may get some snowhere in the Netherlands as well. Looks like that snow Cloudy mailed me a while ago is about to arrive at last [img]smile.gif[/img]
Although by now, it'll be all watery and gone before it touches the ground :(
WB Dizzy [img]smile.gif[/img]

NY is New York State. I live in Rochester, New York

Good morning, all. I stayed up too late again, last night. MagiK, did you read John Derbyshire's column on NRO today. Pretty sweet way to start the day. :D

Attalus! [img]graemlins/whackya.gif[/img] That link goes on the War Forum!!

Plus, it wasted a small chunk of my morning, as I read every available link provided to other - *gasp* - NRO articles. ;) Boo to you for making me read the NRO. A trap most devious and cunning. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#ffccff"> HiHo Attalus [img]smile.gif[/img] No haven't had a chance to check out NRO yet this morning...will have to hop over there [img]smile.gif[/img] in the mean time I have something to PM to you ;)
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<font color="#ffccff"> Hi ya TL [img]smile.gif[/img] Penn and Teller Friday night addressed one of your pet peeves [img]smile.gif[/img] GM foods [img]smile.gif[/img] Was great and I loved it, youmay not be as pleased with it as I was...and to be honest it was a short segment so details were not as in depth as could have been. </font>

[ 04-08-2003, 10:30 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

*runs in the cafe*
*looks around*
*flashes her sig*
*runs around in a hyperactive "I had too much Dr. Pepper way*
Heyo people [img]smile.gif[/img]
Attalus- [img]graemlins/whackya.gif[/img] SHAME ON YOU! You knew poor stoopid TL wouldn't be able to resist reading that! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] :D [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img]

I love that smiley! Everybody do one, it's so cool! [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img]

I can only imagine, MagiK. :rolleyes: The last time I will ever seek to watch Penn & Teller occurred when they were on Fear Factor. They came on as a group. Penn did all the work, and Teller was just a lazy a-hole the whole time. Even the host expressed his pleasure that Rudy from The Cosby Show beat them in the end. ;) Penn seems cool. Teller is useless. (Did I get them mixed up? Hope not. You get the point.)

And, it looks like they could use a little edumacation on GM Foods. If they attacked the dietary concerns, they certainly missed the point. ;)

Good to see you, BTW. Off on a super-secret mission again?

<font color="#ffccff">Naaa no secret missions this time [img]smile.gif[/img] I was given a 4 day weekend for going above and beyond the call of duty as it were [img]smile.gif[/img] So I was completely lazy Friday thru Monday.... [img]smile.gif[/img] It was a nice mini-vacation :D

Penn is the Big guy Teller is the skinny short guy. They do a first rate Job on the BullShit series. [img]smile.gif[/img] They attacked the leaders who allow millions to starve to death rather than use available GM foods to keep them alive....starvation trumps dietary prissyness every time.</font>

[ 04-08-2003, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

"Dietary prissyness." If that wasn't so damned funny I'd give you a Whackya. Well, I'll concede that point about starvation. But me, I live in a spoiled rich country where basic food is not a concern, so I can consider things like the environment. And, it is a privilege I enjoy exercising. ;)

Did you know we still make and export DDT even though it's illegal here? We send it to places where cheap chemicals are more important that a fear of cancer (as the people really don't live long enough to die of cancer). Same principle applies.

<font color="#ffccff">Actually yes I did know about DDT, and I also know they estimate that 30,000 people a year die from malaria and other mosquito bourne disease each year due to the inability too get enough DDT...so is the massive ban on DDT worth those 30,000 deaths? hmm death by DDT...or possible death at an older age from cancer...tough choice. [img]smile.gif[/img]

One point P&T made was that people in rich food abundant nations should "shut the (expletive) up about GM foods" when it comes to feeding those who are starving and facing death due to lack of food. Organicly grown food would only feed a small portion of the worlds population (due to low yeilds per acre), it has been and will continue to be genetic modification and tinkering that has allowed us to continually feed a larger and larger number of people with the land available for growing of food.
Asia would suffer a massive population death if they did not have access to Gm products. Africa is suffering massive numbers of deaths due to not wanting to use GM products. Errr but maybe this is getting tooo heavy for the Cafe ;) </font>

[ 04-08-2003, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

<font color="#ffccff">YO TL, Attalus and Nacht. Check yer PM's people ;) </font>

Let me really rattle your cage, MagiK. If you're so "pro" regarding anything to feed the starving masses, then you should know we'd be able to feed 10X the population if we QUIT EATING MEAT.

But, then again, we're all familiar with my Overpopulation bone, so this is the reason I quit eating meat. And, not eating meat is not something I advocate for others - as I see it as a choice as personal as any out there.

But, for feeding the masses - corn goes much farther than pork or beef. Irrefutible.

[ 04-08-2003, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

<font color="#ffccff">TL your "quit eating meat" comment would make sense if it were necessary [img]smile.gif[/img] but it isn't we can feed the world without removing meat from our diet. Cattle grazing lands are nto necessarily lands well suited to raising crops and even then, to raise enough food you still end up needing modified crops, cross polination, grafting, genetic modifications all of it are needed and have been in constant use since man became agrarian. Do you think strawberries grow that big in nature? hell no...they are treeny little things smaller than your thumb.

Over population may be a problem, but not here in the US. There is plenty of room for 300million people or even 600 million on the continental US. The places where we are over populated are mostly in the Asian sphere of things.</font>

[ 04-08-2003, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Um...guys...this is Cloudy's, not "argue zone", or the Circular Discussions forum...isn't your subject a little "heavy" for a cloudy's? :D

<font color="#ffccff">Well Kaltie...no one else was using it at the time so it seemed ok to chat amongst ourselves as it were [img]smile.gif[/img]
But please do lighten the atmoshphere for us [img]smile.gif[/img] Flash your sig again ;) </font>

[ 04-08-2003, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

No biggie, just that you were making my brain fry and Sigmar posts here too, so let's not damage his chances of becoming a professional window cleaner :D :D
*flashes sig*
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Sorry, Kaltia. I have a penchant for deep discussions before lunch. They go so well with my morning glasses of scotch. :D :D :D

It's okay, TL, I was expecting it from one of your preoccupation :D :D :D
[img]graemlins/whackya.gif[/img] I got there first!
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<font color=deeppink>Good afternoon folks. I see Timber is on a spamming rush as usual. ;)

Hello MagiK. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Where have you been hiding? Haven´t seen you in here for some time. Have you been spamming the war forum? ;)

Fluffy is doing great once more. Creating a new boot sector as well as a new MBR seems to have made her into a happy little girl. [img]smile.gif[/img]

So the discussion on the forum is now about bras and batteries? I feel my thwacking urges arise. :D </font>

*pops in, gets dizzy watching Kaltia bouce off the walls*

Kat, did you forget your Ridlin (sp?) today? Here, have a turkey sandwich and a cuppa Earlgrey.

<font color="deeppink">Willow</font> ... every time you mention <font color="deeppink">Fluffy</font>, I picture an adorably cute white Persian kitty - NOT a computer! That or a floating affro-ized TL head! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] (does anyone else remember that <font color="pink">Pink Panther</font> cartoon?)

Anyway, I thought the <s>Circular Discussion</s> War Forum was the Headbangers Ball [img]graemlins/rocking2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/madatpc2.gif[/img]

Magik, been awhile ... hows things?

What was the topic again? Batteries ..... bras ..... Battery Powered Bras? With neon lights?!? Yea, as if they didn't grab enough attention already! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ok ladies, I'll save you the trouble .... [img]graemlins/whackya.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/whip.gif[/img]

Mmmmmmm ..... strawberries .....

Where were we again .... oh yea, Fluffy's Battery Powered Bra Emporium ....

Night stalker; It's good to see you again! It's been a fair bit of time since you last posted here, IIRC, so where have you been?

<font color="#ffccff">Hiho Night stalker [img]smile.gif[/img] I was on a well earned 4 day break and before that I was on a "secret" mission that I can't discuss [img]smile.gif[/img] But love leaving it open ended to keep people curious. </font>

He had a hard time tracking down a sachet of instant coffee ;)

Yea that whole "need to know" OPSEC thing ... know what you mean. It really buggers people when you say "I can't tell you"! I'm betting it was an official OFO mission! :D :D

Kat I'm usually around here somewhere (GD, Morrowind, or <s>Propaganda</s> <s>Circular Discussion</s> War Forum), but don't always have time to post. We're in the middle of designing a new product.

Got the funny, MagiK, and I laughed out loud, literally. Timber, I feel the shame of that lure as deeply as the situation merits. ;) You have to admit, it was pretty good, today.

<font color="#ffccff">Well to be honest, I am just a civilian now a days [img]smile.gif[/img] I just give my opinion when asked is all [img]smile.gif[/img]

And I was never a field spook to start with...I was a Crypto Weenie with a flair for electronics. </font>

<font color="#ffccff">Well to be honest, I am just a civilian now a days [img]smile.gif[/img] I just give my opinion when asked is all [img]smile.gif[/img]

And I was never a field spook to start with...I was a Crypto Weenie with a flair for electronics. </font></font>[/QUOTE]Maybe, but I bet you still hummed the Mission Impossible theme tune when you walked down the street [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#ffccff">Attalus, I finaly got around to reading that article..it was awesome and sobering at the same time. I think he has the right of it. I wish I could make comments here, but it would be seen as racism and probably be unappreciated as well [img]smile.gif[/img]

Can any one give me a literal translation of "Sic Semper Tyranus"? I never had a latin Class :( </font>

[quote]Originally posted by Horatio:

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Originally posted by MagiK: [qb] Maybe, but I bet you still hummed the Mission Impossible theme tune when you walked down the street [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#ffccff">Shhhhh don't tell anyone ;) </font>

He's got you sussed, Uncle M :D

I don't really think that Magik had that much of a challenge turning his computer on. [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]

"Thus always for tyrants." Supposed to be what Charlotte Cordray said after stabbing Jean Paul Marat, I believe.

I don't really think that Magik had that much of a challenge turning his computer on. [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]<font color="#ffccff">Antryg Picture Jim Carey in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective when sneeking out of the bathroom to snoop around the shark tank ;) </font>

Actually Magik, once I got to know you I kinda naturally thought that Jim Carrey got the idea for Ace from watching you. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

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*FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!* :D :D :D :D </font>[/QUOTE]Ladies and Gentlemen!

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AND!

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Ladies and Gentlemen!

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The lil bell thing goes *ding*
No sexual innuendo meant [img]tongue.gif[/img]

LOL, fight? [img]graemlins/fight.gif[/img]

fight?!?! i love fights yes precious fights lol