You know what gets me? Why is it that in some cultures, women must remove all sorts of body hair and men are not expected to? HMmmmmmmmm.....

Ornery One, YUK! I am blessed with very fine blond leg hair and I admit I shave about once a week. Now, if my sweetie were to say "YUK" I'd shave more often , after thwacking the daylights out of him, of course. ;) :D LOL

What about on your second favorite wife? ;) :D *ducks and giggles*

As I said earlier, I dont care either way with my wife. Have you looked at my homepage in my sig yet? She is beutifull. One smile from her and it would blow away any hair she may have on her legs.

I'm with downunda hairless is my vote too. :D </font>[/QUOTE]Errrm...you like your women bald? ;) [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

OK, OK, I'm on a roll here, someone send me off to play IWD2 or something! :D

Great thread Ornery One!

Awww, that's so sweet! You get Cloudy's Romantic Sweetie of the month award...right after my own love, of course! :D ;)

I am honored, thank you...

You're most welcome and from the sound of it, your wife is a very lucky lady [img]smile.gif[/img]

I suppose I should shower and shave things... LOL but instead I'm going to kill stuff in NWN and I'll worry about hair removal tomorrow ;)

Cool, kill something for me while your in there would ya? Have fun!

Will do, and may I say your family is beautiful! I just clicked to your site. [img]smile.gif[/img] Btw, your wife's name is the same as mine... LOL, you and my Jim have good taste, too ;) *giggle*

Hairless all the way. I've known to many girls that complained about *me* having hairy legs, and thick sideburns so why shouldn't I complain to *them* about hair? The legs can stay but the sideburns can't. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Will do, and may I say your family is beautiful! I just clicked to your site. [img]smile.gif[/img] Btw, your wife's name is the same as mine... LOL, you and my Jim have good taste, too ;) *giggle*</font>[/QUOTE]I noticed "amber" in your profile, I think in your email. Anyway I assumed that was your name. Very cool, and my wife just read what I and you wrote, she is blushing.

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[ 11-18-2002, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]

One time this summer while the cats were inside, I'd just finished putting moisturizer on my legs and they decided then to rub against me. That has to have been the hairiest I'll ever be! [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

I have to say that I think LordKathen is on the right track; I love women and I think they are all beautiful in their own ways, regardless of what they choose to do with their hair. My first comment might have seemed a little insensitive, but it was just an honest preference.

I've always been leery about any cremes that dissolve hair, just too afraid I guess of some kind of chemical reaction, and waxing has to be painful (although I've never tried it). I really don't mind shaving often, and I do it for myself because I love the smooth feel, so comfy!

Also, on an opposite note, I like men who shave their chests, not a "hairy man" kinda gal LOL. I mean, I don't HATE male chest hair, just prefer it gone LOL, especially those men who are almost there anyways (no hair but a patch in the center of their chest) And don't even get me started on back hair! :D [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ornery, do you have a boyfriend or hubby? Maybe you could have him help you shave sometimes. I've shaved my wifes legs before and it can be quite nice for both of you. Not being a pervert here, just suggesting another option to the tedium.

LordKathen, Kinkiy is when you use a feather, perverted is when you use the whole chicken :D

You could try letting it grow and then braiding it! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

Seriously though, being a guy and all, can't say as I have any personal experience on shaving my legs (that I'll admit too, anyway) but I do prefer smooth legs on women.
I do shave my head though every day, and have for the past 11 years, and find that it's just part of my morning ritual now. A good razor goes a long way to making the chore easier!

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[img]graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img] </font></font>[/QUOTE]I didn't mean it *that* way [img]tongue.gif[/img]

LordKathen, Kinkiy is when you use a feather, perverted is when you use the whole chicken :D </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Good one!

Men who shave their chests? Does this happen? Err outside of San Francisco that is [img]tongue.gif[/img] I refuse to shave to 18 chest hairs I have [img]smile.gif[/img]

ladyzekke: I always thought it was kinda weird for a guy to shave anything other than face or head. Then again, I've always liked a kinda hairy chest (on a man) and beards too, although some guys look better without facial hair. I've even talked guys I've known into either shaving their face, or growing a mustache, just to see the difference. My husband went back and forth doing that. It was like being married to 2 men. [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

LordKathen: I don't trust any guy to come near me with sharp objects. (Long story)

[ 11-18-2002, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: The Ornery One ]

About the back hair... I don't have any, but if a guy did then he is pretty much stuck with it. I sure wouldn't care to run a razor up and down my back without knowing where it was going. My skin is on my body, and I'd like it to stay there [img]tongue.gif[/img] . Plus, we'd probably miss a lot too and end up looking very strange with strips of hair running up and down his back. ;)

Do whatever you feel like. Keep in mind that the vast majority of males in western society (myself included) like hairless female legs, but if shaving is something you seriously don't want to do (or simply can't be arsed doing) then don't. On the whole, most guys arn't so superficial as to let leg-hair get in the way of a good relationship anyway.
Waxing seems good on a 'don't-have-to-do-it-so-often' basis (if I would wax my face then I would), just grit your teeth and go for the gusto!
As a male, I personally shave my face often, although sometimes if I feel like it I grow one of those little chin-stripe beards, they're so cool. I also shave my tummy too, makes it all nice and smooth. I don't shave my chest though, don't wanna risk nicking my nipples :D

Exactly man. How could you actually remove backhair in all practicality (besides getting someone else to remove it for you, which you'd probably have to pay them a fair sum to do [img]tongue.gif[/img] )? It'd be one hell of a task, that's for sure.

Men who shave their chests? Does this happen? Err outside of San Francisco that is [img]tongue.gif[/img] I refuse to shave to 18 chest hairs I have [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Male swimmers will shave their body hair. Since excessive leg and chest hair can slow you down when compeating.

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[ 11-19-2002, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Just try the wax - it does hurt, but it's worth the effort. Women have higher pain treshholds than men anyway ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Try wax strips rather than the stuff you have to melt yourself. You can also get oriental wax, which is sugar-based and can be washed off with water [img]smile.gif[/img]
I usually just shave but wax is handy for in the summer.

On the subject in general, I'm sorry I ever started doing it! I'm a light blond and had hardly any hair until I started the bloody shaving business. And I also agree with some people here that you shouldn't shave to live up to some bloody man's ideal if you really don't want to yourself. Or ask him to get rid of his beerbelly first :D [img]tongue.gif[/img] LOL
I think it's pretty ridiculous the way some men expect women to bend over backwards to be aesthetically pleasing when they themselves often look absolutely horrible. I do shave because I like the smoothness and I do like to be appreciated by my b/f, but I don't feel obliged to.

At <font color=lavender>Galadria's</font> suggestion, I had my back waxed, once. Didn't hurt hardly at all, but it was expensive. So, now, when she complains, I make her do it herself. ;) It is one of life's sad ironies that, as a man looses his top hair, he gains it on his back (and, often, ears). [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ewwww :D ;)

LOL, that's what you girls get for opening the can of worms. [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

I personally don't care one way or the other. The only thing I don't like is when the hair is at the prickly stage, but I'm sure if a woman just leaves her legs alone the hair will get long enough to be soft. I suppose if your leg hair comes in very dark it might look a bit strange, but most women I've know have very light hair on their legs.

I recommend people make choices for appearance that feel right for THEM... not for others.

lol... and nose, and face, and... ahem... backside [img]smile.gif[/img] , and toes, and chest, and stomach. Some of us just get a little, some of us start to look a bit like lowland guirella's. LOL ;)

<font color=orange>Sad but true. I too am getting the back hair thing, but not the ears and I still have a full head of (graying) hair. It seems to have gotten grayer with the arrival of our third (and last) child almost three months ago! [img]smile.gif[/img]

BTW, what's up with the hairy chest thing? I thought all women liked big hairy chests! Of course it probably doesn't look as good if they have a big hairy belly to go with it! Especially in a speedo about 5 sizes to small!!! (picture that ladies) :D

Mel, I must protest most vehemently about the beer belly thing. Do you know how much work goes into acquiring a belly such as this? Let me tell you, it's not easy creating a work of art such as this!!! Ask LofA. It requires a daily regimen of meat, potatoes and vast quanities of beer. Not to mention the time ispent at the local bar, pub or Stroh haus. Just think of that the next time you suggest to a man that they lose that beer belly!!!! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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As for guys shaving, I know guys, not just swimmers, who shave - completely. Look at your beefcake posters in the local Wal-Mart that they sell your tennage daughters to pin up on the wall. Those guys - in fact most all male models doing below-the-neck modeling - are shaved AND oiled.

About 5 years ago, I used Neat or something similar to remove my backhair. It was quick, painless, and looked great! Until each of the individual hairs came back ingrown.

OMG! Not only did it look disgusting, but it hurt like the devil.

I go natural these days. There just something sexy about a guy with a belly on the beach who has has back hair parted neatly to the side. It's all the rage! REALLY. :D

Interesting stuff! I never knew there were that many types of wax!
And BOY do I know what you mean about wishing you never started shaving! :D
The whole society/culture thing is interesting. I know that there are peoples in the world who DON'T make a woman remove much of her body hair to be considered attractive....now if we could just import that standard! LOL :D

Actually I also shave for the feel of it and for my fiance, but if I don't get to it for a few days, he's never once complained! I think he's pretty nifty! [img]smile.gif[/img]

<font color=orange>Sad but true. I too am getting the back hair thing, but not the ears and I still have a full head of (graying) hair. It seems to have gotten grayer with the arrival of our third (and last) child almost three months ago! [img]smile.gif[/img]

BTW, what's up with the hairy chest thing? I thought all women liked big hairy chests! Of course it probably doesn't look as good if they have a big hairy belly to go with it! Especially in a speedo about 5 sizes to small!!! (picture that ladies) :D

Mel, I must protest most vehemently about the beer belly thing. Do you know how much work goes into acquiring a belly such as this? Let me tell you, it's not easy creating a work of art such as this!!! Ask LofA. It requires a daily regimen of meat, potatoes and vast quanities of beer. Not to mention the time ispent at the local bar, pub or Stroh haus. Just think of that the next time you suggest to a man that they lose that beer belly!!!! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

</font></font>[/QUOTE]LOL! Sir Taliesin, you're making me choke from giggling and trying to hide it from a room full of people who think I've gone mad! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] The speedo thing got me... :D

Belle here, here goes my 2 cents worth. Personally I shave every couple of days. I hate the feeling of having hairy legs, I guess that is just the girly girl coming out in me. I just feel more sexy and attractive if my legs are smooth. I mean, I could have live without shaving ever got introduced to me, but thanks to my aunt giving my uncle a razor and him shaving my legs for the first time, I now have to shave. Waxing, no, way too painful. Creams, they stink and half of them don't work, well the ones I have tried. So, easy just to relax in a bath, chill every two days and shave my legs and come out with long lean, smooth legs for me and Azred to enjoy, *blushes*. So good luck on the choice you make, all part of being a woman, and may the force be with you minus the pain, lol.
Belle

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I have to shave my breast, my shoulders and am considering shaving my... ahem... legs too.

The reason is I get a massage once a week, because I am a sports addict with constantly sore muscles, and the pain of getting my body hair pulled out by the masseuse outweights the pain of the muscles.

Hairy Potter.
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