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Magnanimous in victory - sure Memmie, count me in http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif.
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And on tje subject of PRATLEY (that Austin dude), I came acros the following article on the net :
Austin Healey could face disciplinary action over an outspoken newspaper column that has incensed the Lions management. Leicester and England star Healey, who withdrew from the Test series decider against Australia because of a back injury, was criticised by Lions coach Graham Henry as the tourists began packing their bags for home. Healey's tirade - he targeted Australia, Australian males and the weather among other things - included a blast at Wallabies lock Justin Harrison, whom he labelled a "plod" and a "plank". His outburst came just a fortnight after scrum-half Matt Dawson was carpeted for blasting the Lions coaching staff and training regime, also in print. A four-figure fine is the course of action Healey can expect from Home Unions chiefs, although he was not around to face any music on Sunday, having been among the first batch of players to leave Australia. "I am amazed that a Lion in the group would give the opposition the ammunition they required to prepare for the game," said Henry. "It was a built-in team talk for Rod Macqueen (Wallabies coach) and the Australian team. "I am not sure what Austin thought - he possibly thought it would knock them (Australia) off their equilibrium. But knowing the Australian animal like I do, it was ideal ammunition. "I was amazed that anyone could have written that," he added. And in a general observation on players writing controversial columns, Henry added: "I am disappointed that those things occurred. There was a system in place that they shouldn't occur, but it obviously didn't work. "I believe the team comes first and I believe that by criticising people in that group, you are not doing what you should be doing. "The team comes first and that is very important if you are going to have the ultimate in a team situation." Healey, whose comments appeared in The Guardian newspaper, predictably received some fierce flak from furious Australians. "He is just a child, just so incredibly immature," former Wallabies Test captain Nick Farr-Jones told The Sun-Herald newspaper. "What he said was outrageous. I cannot imagine his motivation for such an attack. It doesn't deserve a response, but I think we have to because he is so immature." And Simon Poidevin, another Australian rugby great, added: "Australian Customs have a lot to answer for letting this bloke into the country." I think that last quote from Simon sums it up best for all of us http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
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Hmm, you guys are the experts here... The score in the match the Netherlands vs Namibia is 65/2/19 at the moment... Is that good or bad??? I mean, it's all jibberish to me, to be honest... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif
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I'm going to have to make some guesses here, because the way you have presented the information doesn't make sense. I would guess that you have scored 65 runs for the loss of 2 wickets (out of 10) off a current total of 19 overs (you get to face 50 overs as long as you don't lose your 10 wickets). If that is correct, then I would say that you have made a solid start, but your batsmen are not being very adventurous at pushing along the scoring rate. I would expect a score of 225 should be more that enough to win http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif.
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Perhaps it's not making sense, but that's exactly the way it's presentated at the dutch Teletext; I just copied it down to this thread, actually... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif Guess those who update it have no clue how to do that either... lol. Anyway, it seems to be 95/3/30 right now...
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Hi there PB - so nice of you to wait till 1 am here, and 3 am at Memmies before coming over to visit this thread. Now I WONDER - did you perhaps plan it that way http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. So come on PB, if you're ready to talk sports, give us your take on the way in which the golden Wallabies became the first OZ team in 102 years to break the Lions hoodoo and win a series against them http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif. Let us know your perspective http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif.
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I have read the offerings on this page and have found nothing of interest.
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What what what - NOTHING OF INTEREST DONUT????? Tell me now, how many points did you score in your Elton Johnny bet??? What is your impression of that ugh whinger (whoops, winger http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ) Mr Austin Healey. And most of all, how many pints of Cider did it take to drown your sorrows http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. Cheer up matey, the next cricket test starts on Thursday - who knows........ http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif.
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Hi Donut! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/xyxwave.gif Hi PB! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/xyxwave.gif
This article appeared in the UK's prestigious Mirror newspaper. It's from a touring Lions supporter. Lovely people by the way, brought a lot of colour to Sydney! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif <font color="white"> RUGBY UNION: AS ONE EX-PAT SAID TO ME: AT LEAST YOU ARE GOING HOME! FANTASTIC country, Australia, so why is it we just can't leave quickly enough? When I booked my flights, I fully intended to stay in Sydney for a few days after the Lions series, to bask in the glory of a momentous victory. Now, in the almighty hangover of defeat, I'm jealous of those who were on the first plane out on Sunday morning. It's not that the Aussies are unpleasant. Just that they take winning for granted. You quickly bore of congratulating them (through gritted teeth) on being the best in the world at everything. And they never tire of beating the mother country. One local journo gleefully suggested it could be because "England exported its best genetic stock with the First Fleet". It could be worse, I suppose. One old codger I met somewhere in the drunken haze of Saturday night had seen the bottom drop out of his world. The ex-pat (forgive me forgetting his name) had been to the match, but he looked as if he'd been sat on the same bar stool for seven years. His eyes were barely open, and he had a frown like a St Bernard. "At least you can go home," he said. "I live here. I've got to put up with this for the next 12 years." I might have replied, at least, that he doesn't have to fly back to the Ashes. The match itself was a fitting finale. So tight that most of the Barmy Army sat for the last half-hour biting their nails rather than raising the epic chorus that might have spurred the Lions to victory. The British and Irish fans, sitting on the two great wings of the incredible Stadium Australia, were unlit and virtually invisible, while the spotlights shone on the massed ranks in gold throughout the match. True Aussie gamesmanship. But we're not bitter. We've had a warm welcome everywhere, and made a lot of friends. The chief of the Australian RU, no less, paid tribute to "a great band of Lions supporters". There are already cracks showing, though, in the united front of the last six weeks. A Lions tour is a unique chance to forget national differences, but it doesn't take long for old feelings to resurface. Within minutes of the final whistle, one group could be heard chanting "Wales, Wales". Later an Englishman said: "Well, at least we can stop being nice to the Welsh now." </font> ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Hi Memsie,
Donut was here lurking a few minutes ago http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif, but we may have scared him away http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif. I might be doing him an injustice but - it may just be that the hangover is still to rough after a couple of days http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. Nice article by the way - I enjoyed it http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif. ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
I've discovered the magical world of British press http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif
Here's an article from the official Lions Tour website, www.lionstour.com, written by a truly magnificent writer (he's British, too!) <font color="yellow"> Harrison the star as Wallabies take the spoils By Scrum's John Taylor, who toured with the Lions in 1968 and 71 'It's greatly disappointing but you have to give credit to Australia because they played well under pressure and we didn't handle their line-out.' - Graham Henry July 14th 2001. That one small sentence was a fitting epitaph for this tumultuous tour. Henry, quite correctly, chose the line-out as the decisive battle in this final epic encounter. The Wallabies did not just win it they wiped the Lions out in an area where the tourists probably thought they had the edge. Austin Healey should be hung drawn and quartered by his team-mates at the final court session for his puerile, boorish attack on Justin Harrison. Everything written in Britain is reported back to Australia and Healey's column in The Guardian (I know they have always been the champions of free speech but, surely, that does not justify dross like this!) certainly fired up the 6ft 8inch second-row. I have never seen a more impressive debutant. He was magnificent and if John Eales is seriously thinking about retiring at the end of the season they have the perfect replacement waiting in the wings. Since lifting was legalised the side throwing in has usually had too much of an advantage but Harrison used his height and athleticism superbly to disrupt the Lions. At one point you felt Martin Johnson was deliberately throwing away from him - why else would you call high risk long throws to the back inside your own 22 in a tight game and deep into the final quarter, particularly when your thrower has had trouble hitting his men all match? It proved the fatal flaw. On one occasion Neil Back found himself jumping against Eales and on another Wood threw short yet again and Martin Corry came up with a shove in the back so obvious that every Australian in the crowd called it before the referee. Matt Burke slotted the penalty and another, given away in desperation as they literally (but illegally) tried to get their hands on the ball to make it 29-23 and the Lions needed a converted try to win. To their credit they recovered the ball, won a penalty, and set up the chance of a final assault with a line-out on the Wallabies' 22. Johnson trusted himself at last - I am sure it was supposed to be the catch and lay-off to Danny Grewcock with Back and the rest of the pack driving over - but a totally fired up Harrison got a hand to the ball and the last chance was gone. Nice one Austin! Nevertheless, it was still a heroic effort. I confess I was worried that the Lions' resolve might have evaporated in the final week but it was not the spirit which was found wanting and if Jonny Wilkinson had kicked with his normal accuracy they could still have won. He did wonderfully well to make it on to the field and scored a terrific try but I would have put alot of money on him kicking that final penalty to give the Lions a 26-23 lead and for once he failed. If that had gone over the Lions would not have needed to be quite so desperate and it could easily have ended level. That would have been a fitting end. However, it would be churlish to detract from the Wallabies' triumph. As Henry said, 'they played well under pressure' and their two tries were both out of the top drawer. Under Rod Macqueen they have developed a fluency which few other teams can match. The handling skills are silky smooth and their patience as they recycle the ball half a dozen times if necessary until the gaps appear is exemplary. They also have a couple of gems in key positions. George Gregan re-established himself as the best scrum-half in the world as far as I am concerned with a dazzling display of distribution skills nobody else can match and George Smith is Back with bells on. The Wallabies clearly won the battle of the back-rows and the young open-side was man of the match as he constantly disrupted the Lions' possession by getting to the ball so quickly that they could not recycle after the tackle. He is having such a devastating effect on the way the game is being played at the breakdown that it might even be necessary to rewrite the laws. After all the post mortems this should be remembered as an epic series between two very evenly matched teams with the Lions coming up 'just short' as Johnson put it. No disgrace in that. </font> ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Nice article Memmsie,
Plaudits for Harrison, brickbats for our mate Austin, and recognition of the impact that Smith is having on 2nd phase play. His last 3 halves of the series was more in line with his efforts for Canberra this year. Good weekend to look forward to - the Lord's test and the Open Championship for Royal Lytham (too much to hope for OZ success in the golf I think http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ). ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
Tom Smith for the British Lions should really be given some recognition for his input to the team the Scottish Prop is very rarely given any praise.
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As for Jonny Wilkonson I think he is crap!!!! Clive Woodward says he is one of the best fly halfs in the world I very much disagree!!!!!
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Did I mention, no effence to anyone else but as being a fellow Scot I hate the English and their arrogance!!!!Espiacially Clive Woodward,he thinks Northern Hemisphere Rugby is ruled by his team!!!! Wrong!!!
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Hi PB and Donut,
LOL, settle down you pair http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. My 4 Scottish granparents, and many Scottish relatives have a little of that "anti Sassenach" bias as well. I also saw it the other way in the papers over there (ie the "Joe Brown, English athlete....", and "Jock McTavish, British athlete......"). How can I get the pair of you to unite - I know..... PB, trust me, the English aren't really all that smug. Now the Aussies, they, o the other hand, are having enough success on the sporting fields to be really smug http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif. What price an Aussie for the Open Championship http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. (Davros ducks down to avoid incoming) ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
Davros is in fine form here. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif
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I still like you donut Ijust hate the English as a whole!!!! Sorry its in my blood!!! But dont worry we can unite and join forces on the board if you like?????
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Right, finally I get to a computer. (Some idiot introduced my sister to Baldurs Gate http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif, and no Davros I couldn't have got to another computer over the weekend even if I tried).
Firstly - Well done to the Wallabies (on beating the worlds best team http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ) Damn good game, it's not often such a big event lives up to it's billing. Shame either team had to loose that one (I would say that being a Lions supporter), I was on the edge of my seat right up until the end. It's a pity we have to wait 12 years to get our revenge, oh well as long as we don't have to wait 102, http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif (though the ashes looks like it might take that long to get back). (I believe Donut got 80 points on his spread bet - bookies know the game too well). I think the captains comments summed the series up best; basically nothing between the sides except for the lineouts. As for Healy (and Woodward now), both taking about things they know little about and almost spoilt the whole spirit. However, Australians have had a few; "One explanation is that England exported its best genetic stock with the First Fleet". PB; as for English arrogance, I think it's often more ignorance, though it's not always the English (see comment by Aussie press above). Half my realtives are Scottish (I'm not myself) so I know how much it means to a lot of Scots. As for the 4 home teams coming together once every 4 years I think it should go on; 400 million people watched the <u>second</u> test, who knows how many for the third (I heard the viewing figures in Australia where the biggest for any Rugby Match/Aussie rules ever). This is far far more than would have watched the 4 seperate teams play in 4 different countries - there is just something about the Lions... Back to sport - The world swimming championships start this week. No ones mentioned these before, so I assume no one cares much. EDIT Memnoch - The Mirror prestigious?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!? [This message has been edited by Staralfur (edited 07-17-2001).] |
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But at least I am going on holidays in 2 days!!! I could try a bit of underage drinking and drown my sorrows and completely forget about the whole British Lions tour!!!
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In all seriousness, I thought the game was one of the best I'd seen in terms of suspense. It was up for grabs until the very end. The Lions are a brilliant team and I reckon they would have beat just about anyone else last Sunday. In the end it was all about who handled the pressure and the occasion better and the Wallabies were more composed and professional under pressure. Bring on the All Blacks and the Springboks in the Tri-Nations. We're ready. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Nice to hear from you again Staraflur http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif, I was beginning to think you had dropped off the face of the planet. Good to have you back - and tomorrow it starts all over again. Ashes cricket from 7:00 pm, and the Open Championship from 6:30 pm. Better stock the fridge with drinks, and get in a few nibblies - looks like it's going to be a long couple of nights,and a red hot remote control http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. Glad to hear you enjoyed the Rugby - great series - pity we have to wait another 12 years http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif.
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Here's a question for you guys from fellow Super 12 nations. I here that it is likely going to be Super 14 next year, and the two major entries from Aussie are the Perth area and Melbourne. Aren't both of these areas very small rugby areas prefering AFL and league? What about South Africa? Anyway how come it took so long for an Aussie team to win Super 12, you have less teams and more people thus your teams should be stronger? We have more teams, less people thus our good players are spread more thin through out the Franchises. How about that Irish hooker who played for the Lions, what a legend! Side stepping wingers and attempting drop goals! Good Stuff..
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Well, we're world champions (whatever that means) in rugby league and AFL as well though. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif They have a number of good athletes playing those sports who might have otherwise played rugby.
There is a lot more depth in NZ rugby and maybe even English rugby than in Australian rugby at the moment. That's why we're trying to spread the game to Victoria. The good players we do have are really good, though. Be prepared for a battle, mate! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Hi Bhaal,
Your descriptions of Melbourne and Perth (more interested in the other football codes) was exactly how someone would have described the ACT before they let the Brumbies in as the 3rd team (and gee, aren't they something like the Super 12 champions now or something http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ). The parallel is exactly the same - these sides would import players from the existing strong states (ie QLD and NSW), meaning that some fringe players who don't get to impress (because of the strength of talent in the Wallabies) will now start to get a game for more than just club sides. Time we dusted off all our trophies and got ready for title defences I suppose - what do we have at the moment - BILL of course, the BLEDISLOE (again), the Tri Nations, and the ACT have the Super 12. I bet a few lads in the "Shakies" must really be jealous of a success rate like that http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif. ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
Good point Davros, I actually realised that after posting my last message. Of course there will be a heap of fringe players around the existing teams to head to new areas and make the starting line up, can only be good for the game. Whats Wendel Sailor up too? Word is he could be playing on the wing against Lomu at some stage? What a match up can't wait! Hope you have a really tight grip on that silverware because we are coming out with all guns blazing! For once it looks like the All Blacks may all be in form at the same time... doesn't happen often!
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Hi Memmie,
More importantly, there is a cricket match going on - and it look like Donut's boys have capitulated again for a meagre 187 http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif. Lucky the golf is more of a contest - Monty is still holding on to the lead in the Open, but hasn't started his round yet today. Looking forward to playing Lytham myself in exactly 1 month to the day. Here's hoping from another good showing for Monty. ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/davros1.gif |
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Awww stuff. I'm missing all the cricket! Thank goodness for Rupert (did I say that? What!!??) as I got to see a South Africa/India Oneday match the other night. Otherwise the U.S. is cricket dry http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif
Mem. I'm on a G4 in a very large computer store, and your Genie is practically running! Have you sped it up or is it just the speed of the machine. Pages appear instantly here. It's like a dream. I WANT IT http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/crying.gif Large screen, fast, good look - POWER http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...hterpurple.gif ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... http://www.animfactory.com/animation...ing_lg_clr.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
YAY! Just went to crickinfo MARK WAUGH! The prince of poetic batting. Oh yeah! I see we won the first test too! Where is Donut! YAAAYYYYY! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif
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