Hmmm, reflecting on that statement I made, the Simulacrum copy of yourself, even when you're at level 34, won't be anywhere near level 23 (infact, it's around level 17....just tested), i.e. unable to summon skeletal warriors at all, so you'll be stuck with 3 of them. Still, a great aid in battle.

[ 02-22-2003, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: Jim ]

I always forget whether the Simulacrum's level is XP or level dependant.

*slaps own forehead*

[ 02-22-2003, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Alson ]

No need to slap! Simulacrum is supposed to create a copy that is 60% of your current level/HP etc (so your XP calculations were spot on!), but the Vailors Helm version (not sure if this is different to the level 8 arcane spell) creates a copy that is at 50% of your current level (level 17 for a level 34 paladin, or level 20 for a level 40 fighter etc etc), but 60% of your current HP .....wierd.

The whole implentation of Simulacrum is, well -- to put it bluntly -- screwed up. :( While working on the Spells Reference, we tried to figure out the formula. Here's our best findings (albeit still not 100% accurate!):
Quite dubious, as you can see. And it goes on! A Simulacrum is an illusion -- so why isn't it dispelled by True Sight?! Not to mention Dispel Magic... :rolleyes:

[ 02-22-2003, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Alson ]

I consider the other 2 Dragon armours in the games quite useful - especialy the Blue one. ToB doesn't add very many armours (2 bad)

<font color=white> Wich dragon armor in the game is <font color=blue>Blue</font> ?

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You are probaly reffering to the TDD mod., that includes a Blue Dragon Scale Armor IIRC (Topaz Dragon needs to be killed for this suit of Armor). </font>

Also delete one of your posts Tower, because you have multi-posted it ;) .

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[ 02-22-2003, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

<font color="gold">ToB-spoiler:
*</font><font color="#3D2F1B">You are right - there isn't any Blue Dragons in SoA. However, there is a Bhaalspawn called Abazigal.</font><font color="gold">*</font> ;)

<font color="gold">ToB-spoiler:
*</font><font color="#3D2F1B">You are right - there isn't any Blue Dragons in SoA. However, there is a Bhaalspawn called Abazigal.</font><font color="gold">*</font> ;) </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=white>Hmmmm, I didn't knew that because I do not have ToB.

But Abazigal is a <font color="#3D2F1B"> Blue Dragon </font> then?</font>

[ 02-22-2003, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

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Yes Abazigal is a blue Dragon he changes into it after you beat his human form.

I have another question

what is the best (or several of the best) armours that count as max studded leather ? for thieves, ranger kits etc ??? shadow dragon works doesnt it ? what others and what bonuses do they give ?

<font color=white> Let me see, we have the:

Orc Leather +3

This ghastly armor was taken from an orc camp destroyed by barbarians. Instead of standard metal rivets, like normal studded leather, this orc leather is instead laced with hundreds of fire hardened bones. Finger bones, ribs, and skulls cover the armor, acting much like the traditional metal rivets. Powerful orcish enchantments give the armor special resistance to missile attacks, but the repulsiveness of the armor reduces the wearers charisma.

STATISTICS:

Bonuses: +10% Resistance to missile attacks
Penalties: -1 to Charisma
Armor Class: 4
Weight: 7
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By:
Mage

Armor of Deep Night +4

Enchanted ebony rivets adorn the black leather of this armor. Umberlee the Sea Queen granted this armor to Dami Darn, a rogue who slew the conjurer Looxil. The assassination pleased Umberlee, for Looxil had betrayed her in years past. Dami Darn died years later, a knife to the back from her successor in the thieves' guild.

STATISTICS:

Armor Class: 3
Weight: 7
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By:
Mage

Armor of the Viper +5

This armor's namesake is a serpent only in manner, referring to the Drow assassin Raroh. Poison was his trademark, and when he discovered this suit's susceptibility to venom, he gifted it to Avlorm, a promising novice assassin within his own guild. When Avlorm's power eventually threatened his own, Raroh easily dispatched him, thanks to the weakness of the armor he still wore.

STATISTICS:

Penalties: -2 penalty to all saves vs. poison/paralyzation
Armor Class: 2
Weight: 6
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By:
Mage

Shadow Dragon Scale

This suit of armor is formed from interlocking shadow dragon scales. Elegant workmanship and practical considerations make this armor both beautiful and useful. The shadow dragon scales grant the wearer extra protection from acid.

STATISTICS:

Bonuses: +50% Resistance to Acid
Armor Class: 1
Weight: 10
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By:
Mage

This are all the studded leather enchanted armors (SoA only). </font>

WOW, -2 penalty to saves vs poison and paralyzation! It's a high price, isnt it?

Is nobody going to mention Aegar's Hide armor? It's fantastic.

<font color=white> I did not mention it because it is not a ''studded leather armor''

but here it is:

Aeger's Hide +3

This heavy and thick bear hide is all that remains of the fabled Aeger. Several hundred years ago the Aeger, a giant bear, terrorized hundreds of small villages up and down the Sword Coast. The bear was invulnerable to fire, cold or acid. Finally the young men and women of several villages banded together, forming a militia almost two hundred people strong. The Aeger was surrounded and finally slain. Less than a dozen villagers survived, and they carved the Aeger's hide amongst themselves. Out of one of the pieces this armor was created.

STATISTICS:

Bonuses: +15% resistance to fire, cold, and acid
Immune to Confusion
Armor Class: 3
Weight: 35
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By:
Mage

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<font color="gold">Made a quick test - this is a lvl. 27 Cavalier:

http://www.boomspeed.com/carathrax/pasw.jpg

Indeed, Paladins *can* summon Skeleton Warriors. I haven't tried a Ranger yet, though. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font></font>[/QUOTE]Umm...how can Keldorn cast Animate Dead? Or is that a character of your own named Keldorn, because Keldorn is an Inquisitor, not a Cavalier.

This paladin can turn undead and cast spells. It ain't Keldorn.
You thought you can trick us! ;)

actually I just said a maximum of studded leather, as I wanted the list as a guide to thief usable armour. thanks for your help though. so are there any other good armours that can be used by thieves etc ? archers ? stalkers can only have light armour too cant they ?