Felix did some research on that...

Yep most of our house has that type Mack.

"replacing a 75-watt incandescent light bulb with a 20-watt compact fluorescent would result in the same amount of light but would save 1,300 pounds of carbon dioxide and save customers $55 over the life of the bulb."

Now I dont care what experts tell, me a 20 watt bulb is NOT quite as bright as a 75 watt incandescent bulb, but when you change the whole house or at least a large area you do not notice the change. </font>[/QUOTE]I would imagine that we will get the same laws here too. Since we have been trying to get the green law in the works for a while now(2years).

I like those savings as well. [img]smile.gif[/img]

<font color=skyblue>Yeah, most of the lights in our house are the new, and more expensive spiral kind though the ones in the overhead fan lights are those little tubes that are straight and at the top they curve...they're the same thing but just a tad bit narrower for tight spots than the spirals are.

However, they are not nearly as bright and so I have to use a normal old-fashioned light bulb in one room because otherwise it would be way too dark with the lighting options we have in place.

The reason I bought them? I had no idea that they actually did anything for the enviroment and bought them only because they promised longer burning time...though I tend to doubt they go as long as they say they do...but they do seem to go somewhat longer.</font>

Illumina Drathiran'ar I feel your pain. I can not abide being in offices with no or little natural light just flickering flouro's. There are other alternates like LED (which finaly can be made to display 'white' light) maybe some Ironworkers can tell us about other alternate lights? </font>[/QUOTE]Actually I think candles and oil lamps might in fact produce more carbon dioxide than normal light bulbs. But you could try fluorescent fungi. Or darkness, it was quite popular among the lower classes a few hundred years ago.

Don't be so quick to demonise Flourescent lighting. New designs use much higher frequencies to eliminate the flickering effect that some folks are sensitive to. Also, there are now mulitple color options for flourescent for those who hate the weird "bright white" of the old long tube designs.

New compact flourescent designs for direct incandescent replacement are really something you should look into if you have avoided them for fear of a "factory flourescent" type atmosphere. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

We use them throughout our large house, the spirl type where the bulb is hidden and the enclosed type (that looks just like a frosted incandescent) where the bulb is visible.

IMO it is nearly time for them to became the standard product for home lighting... but that is predecated on the existance of a proper recycling stream for them. While they save energy, they are more complicated to produce and create increased waste (ballast) that NEEDS to be addressed to really create a win/win scenario for consumers and the environment.

It is good that you know the skinny on them. I confess I haven't seen one in a home in years so don't know what changes have been made.

Hmmm, maybe I got a bad bulb. I tried a 2-pack of those spiral ones last summer at work. After about a month the one I put in the bathroom started to flicker constantly until I finally tossed it out before it drove me insane. Now the other one that I put in a banker's lamp at my desk didn't flicker, much, but it was so heavy it actually weighed down the part you screw the bulb in, so the bulb leaned and made crackly sounds.

So I thought they were crap, but perhaps I'll give them a shot again. However, again, they are kinda heavy for certain lamps (banker's lamps you put the bulb in sideways).

[ 02-20-2007, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: ladyzekke ]

they're definitely heavier than incandescents... that would be a problem for something flexible that's counting on low weight.

Don't forget that with the fluorescents you can't just throw them out. They have to be taken to a hazardous waste site. Mercury you know. CA says they have to be handled as hazardous waste. Can you say more money?

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