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Memnoch 06-11-2006 09:49 PM

I have another problem...some Java apps don't seem to work on my IE7 beta browser. They used to work on IE 6, but didn't work in Firefox either. Any clues on where I should check? Is it somewhere in settings or something?

Memnoch 06-12-2006 12:30 AM

And why is this happening? I'm trying to view the US News and World Report site (www.usnews.com) on IE7 and it looks all weird. It looked normal with IE6, and it looks normal with Firefox. See below:

With IE7 - looks weird with the blue bars covering the picture and side menus

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5726/ie71pr.th.jpg

While with Firefox, it looks normal:


http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5...fox11ar.th.jpg

Is there something in my IE settings that I should change or something?

shamrock_uk 06-12-2006 04:44 AM

The page is full of errors.

Link.

Apart from the bad html, one possible explanation that I've seen happening a few times is that in order to get IE6 to display it, they've had to write hacky code to get round its dodgy behaviour - IE7 is possibly getting caught and served that same dodgy code when in fact it doesn't need it as much, being more standards compliant.

[ 06-12-2006, 04:47 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

Memnoch 06-12-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
The page is full of errors.

Link.

Apart from the bad html, one possible explanation that I've seen happening a few times is that in order to get IE6 to display it, they've had to write hacky code to get round its dodgy behaviour - IE7 is possibly getting caught and served that same dodgy code when in fact it doesn't need it as much, being more standards compliant.

What is that link telling me, Sham? Can't understand a word of it! :(

robertthebard 06-12-2006 10:09 AM

It tells me that whoever wrote that page makes more mistakes than me, and considering my lack of html skills, that's pretty sad.

shamrock_uk 06-12-2006 11:03 AM

Sorry Mems, I wasn't expecting you to read it all particularly!

Just the top bit was important, purely as a reference by which to back-up my "full of errors" comment [img]smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Strict!
Result: Failed validation, 73 errors
The validator I linked to is basically listing all the errors in the code, line by line.

The news site has identified itself as being HTML 4 Strict yet the code is full of mistake, meaning it's not valid. Think of it like the site claiming to be written in the 'Queen's english' but then actually falling way below par.

This causes problems because browsers are written to display pages based on standard languages. If a web page isn't written properly, browsers therefore have to guess how to display the content - different browsers all guess differently which is why some cope better than others in these cases.

The checker itself is provided by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) - an international standards body dedicated to accessibility which basically decides and defines many of the languages by which content is displayed on the internet.

[ 06-12-2006, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

Memnoch 06-14-2006 04:44 AM

So...is there anything I can do? Or do I have have to uninstall IE7 and go back to IE6?

I've already gone back to Firefox - I liked IE7's look better, but I hate having these problems with websites.

[ 06-14-2006, 04:59 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

shamrock_uk 06-14-2006 04:13 PM

There's nothing you can do.

Your only recourse in these circumstances normally would be to write to the webmaster and ask him to have a look at his code.

However, as IE7 is a beta, there's no reason for him to support it explicitly, and if its an IE7 problem then MS may well fix it before release.

Thoran 06-14-2006 06:29 PM

That page worked fine with my unmodified IE7 beta... 7.0.5112.0

I have found sites in the past however that do not display correctly with IE7.

And I'm using IE7 because it some respects it's better than Firefox... I've got them both on my quick launch and find I more often use IE these days.

Memnoch 06-14-2006 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
There's nothing you can do.

Your only recourse in these circumstances normally would be to write to the webmaster and ask him to have a look at his code.

However, as IE7 is a beta, there's no reason for him to support it explicitly, and if its an IE7 problem then MS may well fix it before release.

Seeing as it's one of the biggest news sites in the US (a mini version of CNN or BusinessWeek) I doubt he'd be in the mood to listen to me whinge about his code, eh.


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