Don't forget, from the point of view of women, men probably are equally strange creatures. ;)

The best advice I could give you is to take a look at the link im my sig.

Don't forget, from the point of view of women, men probably are equally strange creatures. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]I've heard from their point of view we are dogs.... well..maybe not me, but you are. :D

dude,
go for it man, and remember theres plenty more fish in the sea...
anyway now we have you fishing plans outta the way onto your real question.
ok so you dont wanna weigh it but you gotta know so do it damnit!!!
like do you have the same interests at all? if you do then stay friends or else you'll seriously regret it when she falls out with you.....if not what have you got to lose? you still get to look at her, so you've got literally what you have now....
<s>Felix</s>

I think you should ask her again, the worst she can say is no! but remember there are plenty more fish in the sea.

hey i thort we'd sorted Willards fishing trip?
and theres worse she can say like:

"aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh get away from me or im gonna puke aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ewwwwww it nearly touched me sick sick sick aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh"

not that thats ever happened to me......
<s>Felix</s>

Gosh, that sure boosted my ego, johnny... :(

Well, then again, I'm actually not that keen on gals (the sig's just in jest), so... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Have you considered the fourth option?
To develop a closer friendship with this girl (no ulterior motives) and see where a friendship leads the two of you in the future?
By not having anything to do with this girl because she won't go out with you could be costing you a friendship you wouldn't have wanted to live without.
Also, by being friends with her (on a more personal level than just the social scene) you may also discover she'd be your worst nightmare as someone to have a relationship with. :D

Eh? Yeah, that might be a good idea too, but how would I get started on the right foot to becoming friends?

Let it be known, either through yourself or through friends that you would really just like to be friends with her. When she gets the word, make small talk...How's it going? What are you studying/reading? What kind of music do you like? More conversation between the two of you will lead in to opportunities to socailize in other settings outside of school and parties (like hanging out at the park to do homework and bring a picnic lunch etc).

Input from others here at IW on subjects for conversation? What a girl likes to be asked about and talked to about? Are homework sessions & picnics in the the park just for old geezers like myself? Its been too long since I was young lol.