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WOLFGIR 08-21-2001 07:29 AM

Due to a well, heated feeling against drugs, my former answer wasnīt that which I wanted it to be, to angry to write, suffice to say that I donīt want to legalize it due to reasons that I have witnessed and seen and what it has done to people close and distant. If you think it costs much to fight it now? Look at smoking, what does that cost our society??

You want to damage your brain.. go ahead...


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Sir Taliesin 08-21-2001 12:44 PM

<font color=orange>Make it legal. It's totally ridiculous how much maney this country spends on drug enforcement. It's better spent somewhere else, like education.</font>

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AzureWolf 08-21-2001 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by trux:
I won't take all day listing all the other MANY reasons this should happen. The main reason I want it to become legal is that I love the sh*t. I'm an otherwise law-abiding citizen who finds it rather unjust that I could be thrown in jail for sitting in my house minding my own business with a bag of pot.


YES!!!!! 100% agree with you.

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Yorick 08-21-2001 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by WOLFGIR:
Due to a well, heated feeling against drugs, my former answer wasnīt that which I wanted it to be, to angry to write, suffice to say that I donīt want to legalize it due to reasons that I have witnessed and seen and what it has done to people close and distant. If you think it costs much to fight it now? Look at smoking, what does that cost our society??

You want to damage your brain.. go ahead...


Wolgir, I hope I didn't anger you bro. I am anti drugs, but pro legalisation. Legalising means controlling and monitoring, removing it from the drug Barons domain, not making it morally acceptable. Mate, in Nashville they were offering money to people to smoke pot for a study on it's effects. I briefly thought about it, and thought, nope. I need to be alert, motivated and clear headed with what I need to do, I don't want any foriegn substance messing with my focus and creative energy.

The resulting reality?

You couldn't pay me to do drugs.

Kind of funny, but I don't care. I'm a rarity in the music industry it seems, although, drug free musos are steadily growing in number, alongside drug riddled promotional people in the industry. Oh well.

Alright mate? Clear? Legalising is not pro-drug, just advocating a different measure against it.



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G'kar 08-22-2001 12:13 AM

The gateway drug theory gets destroyed: You learn in school that drugs are bad, including pot. Down the road a bit you try pot, for most it isn't bad at all, its fun. Hmmm if those people who said pot is bad were wrong, maybe they were wrong about all those other drugs, so I'll do those too because maybe I've been lied too or those people didnt know what they were talking about.
Countries that legalized or softend their pot laws did not see an increase in hard drug use, it actually went down...go figure.


WOLFGIR 08-22-2001 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by Yorick:
Wolgir, I hope I didn't anger you bro. I am anti drugs, but pro legalisation. Legalising means controlling and monitoring, removing it from the drug Barons domain, not making it morally acceptable. Mate, in Nashville they were offering money to people to smoke pot for a study on it's effects. I briefly thought about it, and thought, nope. I need to be alert, motivated and clear headed with what I need to do, I don't want any foriegn substance messing with my focus and creative energy.

The resulting reality?

You couldn't pay me to do drugs.

Kind of funny, but I don't care. I'm a rarity in the music industry it seems, although, drug free musos are steadily growing in number, alongside drug riddled promotional people in the industry. Oh well.

Alright mate? Clear? Legalising is not pro-drug, just advocating a different measure against it.


No problem Yorrick!
As always, you state your ideas and opinions with great care, and with the base of your statement of the possibilities of legalization, itīs clear you have given thought to this mate! I do respect your ideas. Though I have a trouble woith people that says it is no dangers in pot and hasch. If they had met the people I have, if they saw my friend spend his last hours ouking, twisting like a puppet with fear on his face. If they had seen his families faces.. Would they still say drugs arenīt dangerous?

Newest studies shows that even pot is dangerous and brakes down the brainfunctions more than alcohol..

I do respect your views Yorrick, and you have not offended me, nor angered me!

Itīs just that I was a teen during a heavy perid of the the streets here in Gothenburg.. I have seen alot of shit going down here, and recently we have had alot of killings over drugbusiness and such here in Gothenburg. Mind you that Gothenburg with surounding area are hardly 500.000 people.

Cheers mate! If you ever get to Seden i still gonna buy you that beer! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


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Diogenes Of Pumpkintown 08-22-2001 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by WOLFGIR:
No problem Yorrick!
As always, you state your ideas and opinions with great care, and with the base of your statement of the possibilities of legalization, itīs clear you have given thought to this mate! I do respect your ideas. Though I have a trouble woith people that says it is no dangers in pot and hasch. If they had met the people I have, if they saw my friend spend his last hours ouking, twisting like a puppet with fear on his face. If they had seen his families faces.. Would they still say drugs arenīt dangerous?

Itīs just that I was a teen during a heavy perid of the the streets here in Gothenburg.. I have seen alot of shit going down here, and recently we have had alot of killings over drugbusiness and such here in Gothenburg. Mind you that Gothenburg with surounding area are hardly 500.000 people.


As much could be said -- and actually is said -- by people who grew up in alcoholism ravaged families. Is the solution to the real problem of alcohol abuse, with all its devastating consequences, to make it illegal?

Regarding drug crime -- most of the crime associated with drugs is a consequence of its being illegal. This was the lesson of US prohibition of alcohol in the early part of the 20th century. When alcohol was made illegal, control over it passed to that era's equivalent of "drug lords" -- brutal gangsters like Al Capone -- and crime rates rose dramatically, with drive by shootings, gang war killings over "turf" etc -- all the same things associated with "drug lords" and "drug crimes" today.



domingo 08-22-2001 12:35 PM

I think all drugs should be legalized ..... Im not pro drug by any means, Ive seen what it can do to people through friends and family. But when people buy them off the street they are first off ruining their financial lives through paying "monopoly" type prices for them ... second of all many times drugs are laced with other more harmful products .... legalization would allow regulation of this ... dealers would be out of busines ... less violence on our streets .... and by the way .. cigarretes and alcohol are far worse for you then marijuana they are very dangerous.

AliCat 08-22-2001 05:57 PM

As I am one of the apparent few against legalization of marijuana, I'd like to know what the supporters think about the whole OxyContin bit? If you haven't read anything in the newspapers, OxyContin is a painkiller which is legal but available through prescription only. However, many people have found ways to shoot it up and get the effect of a 12-hour painkiller all in one jolt (which apparently feels good but has a nasty letdown). In many areas of the U.S., there is a huge problem with improper use and abuse of the drug.

So my question is how would legalization of many of the presently illegal drugs make things better, based on this example???

TheDutkanator 08-24-2001 07:17 AM

<Table><TR><TD Style=Filter:glow(Color=blue, strength=3)><h1><Font Size=2, Color="white">See my post in "Internet Porn..." I answer this question there. (I for one am a pot smoker (not often though))</font></h1></TD></Table>

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