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Lucern 06-19-2005 02:41 PM

lol, Limbaugh and facts don't even belong in the same sentence.

It is fun to see American conservatives get their collective underoos in a knot over him. It's also fun to see what kind of juvenile fat jokes 50 year old pundits and politicians come up with lol. You'd think they'd be experts at dealing with political commentary masked as something else* [img]tongue.gif[/img] I enjoy his films (tell me it's not entertaining to see the overbearing, overweight Moore chasing down people yelling for a minute of their time), but I don't believe a word of them unless I read it from a more credible source. Even where I think he's right, his methodology doesn't lend credibility to his work, so he gets a F from me as a social scientist [img]smile.gif[/img]

I agree with Aragorn that his hyperbole is unnecessary for the points he wants to make (haven't seen 911, so no comment there), yet there are well done documentaries on, say, the woes of outsourcing that will never enjoy 1/10 of the recognition of Roger and Me. I guess most people would rather be entertained than learn something.

Morge's suggestion to check out the other threads is a good one. The Bowling and 911 threads handled it pretty evenly from what I read.

*Cheap shot at conservative media, nothing more, nothing less.

/)eathKiller 06-20-2005 05:55 AM

Moore uses creative liscence to woo his audience. Aside from a combination of differint film making techniques used in documentaries to apply drama to reality in politics he's risen above the average conspiracy theoriest and has established himself as not just A documentary film maker but THE documentary film maker.

Frankly, I just like indy films... But I did see bowling and farenheit which were both pretty good. He isn't afraid to draw conclusions, I'll say that. The world we live in is filled with a lot of corruption and back-handed stuff, this doesn't mean its as easy to see out in the open, though.

If you look into bush's past (and his cabinet) you'll find just about everything being done in the name of self-improvement in regard to one's wallet.

The problem with our government is that our big businesses are controlled by our government and whent he government shows BIAS toward business there's only the government, itself, to determine what should be done about it. It doesn't matter which party is in office! The Clinton's had white water too.

The reason Bush's governmental corruption is so intriguing is the fact that... Every single thing he seems to do... EVER... is done in the name of his friends.

That doesn't mean he's an evil grand schemer, just that he's so self-centered he doesn't care about the causes he claims to support as much as the support of companies like Haliburton and his middle eastern oil buddies.

Lavindathar 06-20-2005 11:27 AM

<font color="cyan">I understand what you mean about the bias, and that he tells only one side.

But, the argument he puts forward is very good. In some points, I wouldn't care what the other side was. His side is too good.

Especially on the gun cases, I don't know how you can justify the "x" ammendment where you have the right to own guns. Thats just bullshit, and causes far more deaths than it prevents.

So I'm with Moore all the way on that one!!

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Dace De'Briago 06-20-2005 05:29 PM

Your opinion of Michael Moore?

Google for the word "failure".

The top two results say it all.

Hivetyrant 06-20-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
Your opinion of Michael Moore?

Google for the word "failure".

The top two results say it all.

lol!!!!

Aragorn1 06-21-2005 03:46 AM

WHat's the 5th result all about??!

Davros 06-21-2005 06:49 AM

He ROCKS :D


Oh - and he's sooooooooo cute [img]smile.gif[/img]

Neo the Warrior Cat 06-21-2005 03:34 PM

My opinion?

Unmitigated ass. He is ass incarnate.

Morgeruat 06-22-2005 10:09 AM

Quote:

I never understood why Michael Moore's sort of "A Current Affair" style of ambush journalism pays off with the public at large. He runs up to prominent people with a microphone demanding unexpected, invasive, unfair questions of people in public, and then throws sarcastic "well isn't THAT suspicious" looks at the camera when they refuse to answer.

All it serves to do is humiliate everyone involved, which I suspect is the goal.

Felix The Assassin 06-22-2005 09:58 PM

Where was this lard bucket when clinton bombed Kosovo?
What about the Monica Story, when is he going to do that one (on film, that is)?

Then there must be some truth that he can only do one sided controversy, and only limit it to HIS arguments and points of view.

All in All, just another wind bag.


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