Sorry to make such a crass statement Cerek, in light of the circumstances, but I was taught people who commit suicide go to live in the... um... hotter place after they die.

I can do nothing but agree with MagiK here. My condolences, Timber. :(

Oh you're a hero aren't you? I think you'd change your mind if you were in torture.

Oh you're a hero aren't you? I think you'd change your mind if you were in torture. </font>[/QUOTE]This is definitely the wrong thread to start such a debate in.

[ 05-22-2003, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Horatio ]

Here's the link for the Chicago Tribune guestbook for my recently-departed friend: Mike.

TL, I am sorry, and I know it is hard enough losing a friend, but when they take their own lives it is harder to accept and understand, I have been in your shoes, when i was 17 my best friend killed himself, because his mother put him in a hospital where he was put on suicide watch, but the hospital ignored him and he hung himself with the sheet, I have often thouht about it, life is hard when you are depressed, and you have to put on a *face* for everyne to make them think you are ok, thebest indicators of sucide thoughts are often the least looked for, withdrawl for loved ones, seems to be too happy around others, always avoiding confrotatons, I have lived with a suicidal mother for my entire life, so I know what the *faces* are :( again I am trully sorry for your lose and hope his family and you are able to cope with this

Bummer news Timber. Sorry to hear that. :(

I am so sorry for your loss Timber. :(

I couldn't have said it better myself MagiK.

Sorry for your loss Timber.

I have had experience with that as well, one of my old classmates commited suiced some two years ago. What I´ve heard he got involved in crime and drugs after he graduated. It´s sad when these things happen but unfortunatly they do sometimes. I feel sorry for his daughter as a family members suicide can be very traumatic and cause feelings of guilt.
Hope things get better for her soon.

Oh you're a hero aren't you? I think you'd change your mind if you were in torture. </font>[/QUOTE]Always with the sarcasm arent you? I agree with Horatio, i'm not discussing this because frankly, you know nothing about me and it is also very disrespectful to the reasons this thread was made.
This is the last i'll say on the subject.