Gilgamesh, you're fooling yourself if you think that you were not already a target of the terrorists. Let's see, they've arrested some of these thugs in Germany, France, Italy, and Spain planning attacks on American embassies. Now we have the arrests of more of them in the UK planning a chemical attack on the London subway. And I'd be willing to bet that they were planning the gas attack before 9-11-01.

I agree it does not sound right. But there are individuals out there that need to be showen peace with a iron fist it is sad. I am trying to think of a different way to handle this and nothing seems to come to mind.

Im scared of a war... I dont care about my self, but i dont want my friends and family to die... Its a scary thought...

Im going to have to be on the battle field, i will maybe even have to kill someone, and i couldnt live with my self if that was the case, but its like kill or die out there...

I want peace just as much as you guys, but i defenitly dont want a war :( :( :(

War is definetly a NO NO in my opinion...

Well if you want war on terror, ill see you on the battle field some day maybe...

How would you make peace with this scum? Would you bend forward and let them have their way? Or would you fight back? Or maybe you're one of those people who think that good intentions will solve everything.

Yea...
I guess your right, i just dont want it to end this way, i dont want war, or to die, i want to settle down with a wife and kids some day, i want a happy future for my future kids and family...

Yet again, i dont care about what happens to me, but i couldnt bare to see my friends or family in a unspeakable pain...

The pain of having limbs broken off, mustard bombs, decaying at you skin, being set on fire by flame throwers, need i go on ? Its not a pretty site, and no good comes out of war! Doesnt anyone see it in my point of view?

I don't want it either, Gilgamesh. I hear where you're coming from.

-Sazerac

I dont let people walk over me, i do intend to fight back, theres just gotta be another way besides war. Think of all the inocent people that will die, or innocent people, kind caring people, who may have 1 evil family member who dies, they will be very upset, its not fair on them, their fammilies will eventualy die, and a lot of iraq and Afganistan have very nice people, its just some of these rebelion groups.

Sadly the countries and civilizations of iraq and afganistan are being in with all this terrorism. I feel sorry for what they are going through, and what they will soon go through....

Gilgamesh, I think you mistook what was hyperbole (see: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hyperbole ) on my part for an assertion of fact. My point was one regarding the importance of allies and solidarity. You didn't address my point that you guys on that side of the pond actually *have* been plagued by terrorism longer than we have.

I certainly didn't want to dredge up the Revolutionary War, the plight of the American Indians, or your inability to spell Christopher Columbus. :D (just kidding, mate)

[ 11-26-2002, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

None of us WANT war. Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Hussein beaten again, and better. But it's an unfortunate necessity. You say you want to prevent your friends and family from being hurt. I think the only way to do this is to stop these bastards before they start and they won't get a chance to hurt those you care about. It's called a "war on terror," but it isn't in the traditional sense. There is no reasoning with these fanatics. We need to ferret them out, remove them from power, kill them if that's what it takes, and let the majority of more reasonable muslim people take over and govern in their stead.

Thanks Sazerac, its good to hear im not the only one who doesnt want war, what a horrible Era we are about to encounter...
Many lives will be lost soon, i know it, Many....

The future is dark, very dark, and its all thanks to individuals, not countries, individuals.... Why go to war with the countriess...

Its the terrorists we want, just cause they come from that country, doesnt make it the countries fault!