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dplax 01-09-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
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"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"

Oh, I completely agree, we shouldn't waste money on such trivial things as justice for child rapists, what a stupid notion. </font>[/QUOTE]If you were sure from the moment you arrest someone that they are a child rapist then essentially there would be no need for a trial, and the justice system would not be needed. The money isn't wasted on justice for child rapists, but on proving that the man/woman you caught is indeed the child rapist.

In this case I would have to agree that the ruling gives a ridiculously low sentence though.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 01-09-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Morgeruat:
*ROFL* yes, because I think that POS should receive a fate worse than death that makes me morally, mentally, and socially identical to a monster who raped a SEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL for FOUR YEARS, I love moral equivalency arguements, they fall completely flat when logic is applied.

Watch out world, I'm as dangerous to seven year old girls everywhere, and all because I think a rapist and pedophile should suffer for his crime.

I never said he shouldn't. I said that "justice should be served". If his punishment doesn't fit his crime, then it isn't justice now is it? What I said was that society shouldn't stoop to his level. There are more civilised ways to deal with scum like him without turning ourselves into savages.

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Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
<font color=skyblue>There is no place on this earth for a man that brings so much pain to a little girl. She suffered a fate worse than death. </font>
I never said there was. I think he should be issued the death penalty and more.

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Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
<font color=skyblue> I wonder what is wrong with people who do not become enraged at such a disaster. What kind of people are they? Civilized is not the right term for them. I mean, all prosecuting attorneys decided on their jobs because they want to punish the lawbreakers, and they usually try for the heaviest penalty granted to them. Are they then uncivilized? Or does that make us uncivilized because we wish that we were able to stand before the courts and argue as a professional does for the heaviest punishment that the courts can throw onto an individual for his heinous crime? (I learned that world on Law&Order, SVU) [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>
Are you implying something? Or is this a generate statement at lawyers who defend such people? I find it difficult to tell.

Ziroc 01-09-2006 09:29 PM

Shotgun blast to the face, point blank range would be my sentance for the filth.

And I'd do it free of charge. Save the tax payers wasting a penny on the waste.

Sir Degrader 01-09-2006 09:30 PM

Granted, after about 20, you'd become a glibbering lunatic.

John D Harris 01-09-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
Okay then...let's chop of his weewee and feed it to the dogs.
Nay Johnny, let's nail it to a stump with a 3inch roofing nail, light the stump on fire and give him a dull rusty knife. He can cut it off himself or burn, the choice is his.

Nightwing 01-10-2006 09:40 AM

This does bring up an interesting subject about rehabilitation. The most successful drug rehabs last 90 days or more and are inpatient programs. Even then you are only talking a 47% success rate. This judge is saying he wants this guy out soon so he can rehab in an outpatient program. To me this just seems backwards. Give him an appropriate sentance and rehab him in jail. We are not going to kill the guy so we need effective ways to punish and rehab so they can be safe productive members of society. What this judge did was way too exstreem and I am sure it will be appealed.

Azred 01-10-2006 08:55 PM

<font color = lightgreen>Let's recall the immortal words of what Marcellus Wallace had in mind for Zed. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what needs to happen to people like this offender.

One lawyer in Dallas, interviewed after the trial of a person convicted of sexually assualting a child, stated that in 10 years of criminal law she never defended a case with a first-time sex offender. All of them were repeat offenders.
That is to say, the repeat offense rate of sex offenders is very, very high. This guy will offend again.</font>

Morgeruat 01-11-2006 01:31 AM

I would like to hear that the judge had to look the girl in the eyes and tell her that the years of torture and abuse and her upcoming lifetime of counselling only warranted a sixty day prison term and an "outpatient" therapy.

Nightwing 01-11-2006 07:32 AM

It does amaze me that sex offenders say they will change like it is easy. Also people like this judge think it is easy or this was the only time. This was the only time he was caught how many offenders are there that only get caught every now and then then get off with a light sentance? Having compassion for someone who has done wrong does not mean forgoing punnishment, if the punnishment does not fit the crime it will not carry much of a learning factor with it, in fact it may work as a motivator because nothing really happened. It's like the anti drug commercials rock starts were doing in the 80s. The message was don't do drugs or you will have to do a commercial and that's it. Big deterrent there.

Sir Degrader 01-13-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by dplax:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
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"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"

Oh, I completely agree, we shouldn't waste money on such trivial things as justice for child rapists, what a stupid notion. </font>[/QUOTE]If you were sure from the moment you arrest someone that they are a child rapist then essentially there would be no need for a trial, and the justice system would not be needed. The money isn't wasted on justice for child rapists, but on proving that the man/woman you caught is indeed the child rapist.
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</font>[/QUOTE]No, sorry, but I was under the impression that the judge was stating the money would be wasted if it went to incarceration, IE punishment.


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