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Orbost 05-26-2005 07:10 PM

WW3 seems pretty unlikely anytime soon. Both the previous wars were fought between countries of similar power and status. Nowadays, no country has the economic or military strength to mount any serious challenge against the States.

Any of the situations mentioned (Palestine, India/Pakistan etc) stir strong emotions across the world, but if conflict did start, and the States intervened on one side or the other, can you really see other countries committing themselves to fight against the States? I can't.

We don't have the situation anymore of two superpowers matched against each other in economic/military might or in idealogy.

The world is a far safer place now than anytime in the 20th century.

Finally, Timber, could you be any more grossly offensive if you tried? Wars of any scale inflict nothing but suffering on all sides, and to suggest that there is somehow an upside to millions of people dying is just sick.

shamrock_uk 05-26-2005 07:27 PM

Nevertheless, there are serious welfare implications to a burgeoning population...

And when my exams are over I'll read up about that TL, I'm astounded if that's the case.

Azred 05-26-2005 11:19 PM

<font color = lightgreen>Orbost, Timber sometimes makes statements simply to stir things up. Of course, he was only kidding....

...we should predetermine who gets "culled" in WWIII. [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] </font>

[ 05-26-2005, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: Azred ]

VulcanRider 05-26-2005 11:47 PM

A *slightly* better alternative to WWIII might be a space program useable by Joe Citizen. Wars are fought over control of resources. As long as there's room to keep expanding to new sources, the pressure to fight won't build up.

Djinn Raffo 05-27-2005 01:35 AM

WORLD WAR 3!

What we need is not a WW3 Timber my fellow.. but what we need indeed is a smart ship, space sending, sylvan seed bearing planet hopper to take our populations to the far off far offs.

Aerich 05-27-2005 03:58 AM

No World War III, at least not in the mold of past wars. No more huge armies, they're too vulnerable to our current offensive weaponry, even if non-nuclear stuff is used.

If we do have a WWIII, it won't be over politics, as the first two were. It will be over resources - water and oil.

Djinn Raffo 05-27-2005 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aerich:
No World War III, at least not in the mold of past wars. No more huge armies, they're too vulnerable to our current offensive weaponry, even if non-nuclear stuff is used.

If we do have a WWIII, it won't be over politics, as the first two were. It will be over resources - water and oil.

Aerich! Would you kill for a piece of land!?

Luvian 05-27-2005 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Unfortunately, a World War does not seem likely anytime soon. I say unfortunately, because most every previous generation of humans has had a nice crisis, be it disease or strife, to knock down the population numbers. Currently, even with our tragedies with tsunamis and in Iraq, there are pitiful few deaths to keep up with the rabbit-like birth rate of humans. Sorry, but for the good of the whole, I'd like to see a bunch of us die. Thanks for playing.
Well... Canadians are not reproducing fast, and we have to rely on immigrants to fill up our numbers. We've also have lots of land to spare, so I propose Canada get left out of the potential future world wars... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Aren't you guys a little crowded down there in the US? ;)

Luvian 05-27-2005 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orbost:
WW3 seems pretty unlikely anytime soon. Both the previous wars were fought between countries of similar power and status. Nowadays, no country has the economic or military strength to mount any serious challenge against the States.

Any of the situations mentioned (Palestine, India/Pakistan etc) stir strong emotions across the world, but if conflict did start, and the States intervened on one side or the other, can you really see other countries committing themselves to fight against the States? I can't.

We don't have the situation anymore of two superpowers matched against each other in economic/military might or in idealogy.

The world is a far safer place now than anytime in the 20th century.

Finally, Timber, could you be any more grossly offensive if you tried? Wars of any scale inflict nothing but suffering on all sides, and to suggest that there is somehow an upside to millions of people dying is just sick.

Well... you don't need a big military might to launch a few nuclear missiles around... I'm way more scared of some strange country getting it's hands on womd than I am of them getting an army the size of the US.

shamrock_uk 05-27-2005 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Djinn Raffo:
Aerich! Would you kill for a piece of land!?
You might if it was the last piece of oil-bearing land left...


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