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Rimjaw 04-15-2003 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Desdicado:
Really?, the Israelis are basicaly the same "race" as the Arabs, why do you think Israel isn't developing an "Anti-Arab Bomb"? (The last bit's just kidding).
I have no idea what you just said, though you might be confusing nationality and race now. Jews make up the majority of Israel's population, however they do have an Arab minority.

Stormymystic 04-15-2003 03:19 PM

I am not going to go into details why we attacked Iraq, but i agree with you about the war, we should never had to have been put in this postion in the first place, as for Sadam's rulings, would you live in a place that tortured the civalians just to see them suffer?
to let everyone know,i am not pro war, i hate war and the killings, but understand thatit happens and no one who belives in right and wrong can stop the people wanting to "make the world right" as they see it, do not think i am being a weaked hearted person, but i feel wars are not fought for the better reasons
are my views outdated? do not think i will get mad for any comment made, ijust want to knowif others feel this way

[ 04-15-2003, 03:21 PM: Message edited by: Stormymystic ]

Mordenheim 04-15-2003 03:20 PM

This is hopeless

but do me a favor

stop relating Jewish with a religion. There are plenty of "Jewish" people who are not religious. There are also Jewish Christians' Jewish muslims and so on

If you are Jewish become suspect then I wonder if you would pass having them wear stars that identify them. Oh wait it has happened before

Desdicado 04-15-2003 03:23 PM

Like the Arabs in Israel have to identify themselves you mean?

An interesting post from Timber-Loftis about Sharon making noises about Syria, could this be why they are next on Bushs list???

[ 04-15-2003, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: Desdicado ]

Mordenheim 04-15-2003 03:32 PM

Yeah like that. I don't agree with that either.

Yes Sharon is the real president of the United States. Boy that Jewish conspirecy has come full circle has it not. History repeating itself and all that

[ 04-15-2003, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Mordenheim ]

MagiK 04-15-2003 03:56 PM

<font color="#ffccff">Is the "Israel controlling the USA" thing connected with the Illuminati? or is there some other secret order behind this chaos? </font>

Azred 04-15-2003 05:32 PM

<font color = lightgreen>We attacked them because 1) we can and 2) they were there. We can do whatever we like because we are the United States and the world is our oyster. So there. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Love live the Novus Ordo Seclorum! [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] *evil laughter*</font>

skywalker 04-15-2003 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Azred:
<font color = lightgreen>We attacked them because 1) we can and 2) they were there. We can do whatever we like because we are the United States and the world is our oyster. So there. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Love live the Novus Ordo Seclorum! [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] *evil laughter*</font>

And more of it to come it seems.

Mark

Azred 04-15-2003 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
<font color="#ffccff">Is the "Israel controlling the USA" thing connected with the Illuminati? or is there some other secret order behind this chaos? </font>
<font color = lightgreen>No, that would be the Elders of Zion, a "sister" of the Illuminati. Sometimes their goals are in alignment; sometimes not.

Unfortunately, the Elders are not in control of America; that would be the Bavarian Illuminati, one of the original conspiracies. The Freemasons, long a front of the Bavarians, established the United States as a base from which to bring about a worldwide hegemony based on economic and, secondarily, intellectual freedom. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] </font>

Davros 04-15-2003 06:09 PM

Well it was news to me that Rummy is Jewish - am I right in taking that as fact or not - there doesn't seem to be a lot of denial on that score. I knew about Wolfowitz and Perle and Fleischer already.

I still think it is a long bow to be drawing Desdicado. I don't think that that there was ever one single reason that stood out above the others. The conglomerate included :
* The existance of WOMD (the official reason we went to war)
* The liberating of the oppressed people (the reason that was later focussed on cos it played better to the masses)
* Saddam had been a thorn for long enough, and if someone is getting really really annoyed by a thorn they pull it out
* Oil - let's not delude ourselves that this wasn't on the list guys and gals - maybe it wasn't in thetop two or three, but people that want to ignore it totally as a reason are only fooling themselves
* Regional instability and the rise of religious fanatacism

Those aren't the only ones - there will be others and some will be honourable and some will be less so. Note that I don't include links to Al Queeda - the only ones thrown up by Colin Powell in his presentation to the UN were immediately debunked by the security services of the world the following day.


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