Yorick and Melusine, I think I can understand your positions, and respect them, though I do not share them. Thanks for posting. But, yeah, I do feel like we are being held to a higher standard than the enemy.

No I don't. I can be walking down a street minding my own business and a carefully positioned newspaper headline will rudly interrupt my thoughts with it's two-to-three word sensationalism.

And it's not just America. Otherwise I would have said "American media". It's a world problem.

Missed you too Mel. [img]smile.gif[/img]

What do we do if the article itself is lying?

Oh, I should have added, Bardan, good post [img]graemlins/awesomework.gif[/img] And, Hugh,good luck. I don't mind being ignored insuch an awesome cause. ;)

Sorry Attalus. ;)

No I don't. I can be walking down a street minding my own business and a carefully positioned newspaper headline will rudly interrupt my thoughts with it's two-to-three word sensationalism.

And it's not just America. Otherwise I would have said "American media". It's a world problem.</font>[/QUOTE]Yes, you do. The fact that you let it distract you is not the media's problem.
I see stacks and piles of different newspapers every day...the headlines go unseen unless I choose to focus on them...focus grasshopper...it is a conditioning of The Self that can be attained.

I extend a sincere apology for your misunderstanding of my "Welcome to America" remark. I didn't intend to imply that you meant it is just an American problem, I just know that on the streets of New York, one is more likely to be exposed to outdoor news stands than they would be in most any other American city...that still doesn't mean that you have to read them.

No I don't. I can be walking down a street minding my own business and a carefully positioned newspaper headline will rudly interrupt my thoughts with it's two-to-three word sensationalism.

And it's not just America. Otherwise I would have said "American media". It's a world problem.</font>[/QUOTE]Yes, you do. The fact that you let it distract you is not the media's problem.
I see stacks and piles of different newspapers every day...the headlines go unseen unless I choose to focus on them...focus grasshopper...it is a conditioning of The Self that can be attained.

I extend a sincere apology for your misunderstanding of my "Welcome to America" remark. I didn't intend to imply that you meant it is just an American problem, I just know that on the streets of New York, one is more likely to be exposed to outdoor news stands than they would be in most any other American city...that still doesn't mean that you have to read them.</font>[/QUOTE]Oh come on. "Position position position" is all about catching peoples attention. Billboards, subway entrances, windows, near food. You can't not live in certain civilisations and not see headlines.

The 'you're free not to read it' is a cop-out acceptance of a downsliding media. Is that the cop-out for American voters? "Oh well, if the pollies suck you can always vote for no-one"

The point is the media COULD BE BETTER. It doesn't have to be the way it is. It's about values other than profit-profit-profit.

The solution (if it's even attainable) is not a matter of withdrawing from society. Since when is a problem solved through escapism, withdrawal and denial? Will the problem go away if I move to Fiji and not read papers? Can the whole world move to Fiji?

[ 04-08-2003, 02:49 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ]

I solved most of my problem by de-selecting FOX off my remote control so it skips stright from Sky to CNN to BBC on the satellite now ;)

<font color=orange>I thought SKY and FOX were almost one and the same! Aren't both owned by Murdock? Is the FOXNEWS network you watch also the one we watch here in the US?

edit: Oh BTW, Hey Yorick! I see you decided to come to the darkside for a while and join us over here on the War Discussion channel! Welcome!!!! [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

[ 04-08-2003, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]