I'll take that bet I say 99.95% of the civilain Population, 100% of surrendering troops, 0% of troops that do not surrender.

TOUCHE'!!!

A hit, A very palpable hit!

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[ 03-19-2003, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: Nachtrafe ]

<font color=orange>If you have nothing better to add to the discussion then go away. We need no trolling here!</font></font>[/QUOTE]We must have very different views on trolling then, because I think you guys are being more than a trifle intolerant of his views. The suject of the topic is "Apparently it has started" and it is a war we are talking about is it not? I think he is making valid statements and asking valid questions and getting shouted down. Are we suggesting that peace protesters no longer deserve a place on the forum simply because the war has begun?

I guess they feel the same way the President does (see sig quote).

I see what you mean - the old "My way or the highway" philosophy huh - are you suggesting we should sink to that level too?

Davros Davros Davros...*shakes head* You know better. There are better, and more eloquent, ways to voice a protest, rather than simply coming in, dropping a grenade, and going out. That is *exactly what Indemaijinj did. If he wants to debate/discuss, perhaps he should do so, by either posting ON TOPIC, or posting his own thread.

Sir T, John D, Ronn, and myself were right on target with our comments towards Indemaijinj. His post is, quite simply, trolling.

No Nachy - your opinion is that it was trolling - I have expressed another.

Hmmm...well, since I'm one of the 'they', I guess I'll answer. First off, see my last post to Davros. Secondly, noone is telling Indemaijinj that he cant have an opinion, just that his POST was trollish and inappropriate to THIS THREAD. Perhaps, if he feels that strongly, he should post his own thread and wait for a response. Hmmmm?

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[ 03-19-2003, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: Nachtrafe ]

I'll take that bet I say 99.95% of the civilain Population, 100% of surrendering troops, 0% of troops that do not surrender.</font>[/QUOTE]I get some of the action:
I predict about 99.995% or better civillian survival or around 1000 or less casualties from Allied fire...

That goes to 99% or hundreds of thousands if you included Iraqi army killing their own people. IMO it's far more likely that Iraqi civillians will be killed by Iraqi fire than by Allied fire.

And further drops to 90% or potentially millions if Iraqis kill their own people with WOMDs, which is also a distinct possibility.

True. And, since it's getting us *both* off topic, I'll shut up about it. :D

Erm...back on topic: All I see on the major news websites is that troops are moving into the DMZ...mostly it seems like staging for the actual attack. The only place I can find mention of actual bombing is on the Debka site. Is everyone else finding the same?