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Originally posted by AboveTheRimYo:
Grand-Ranger: No, i dont live in america.

250: True, though i wasnt aware i was limited to one idea per post http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

John D Harris: Congrats on a wonderfull example of missing the point entirely, though i didnt know america gives more foreign aid than any other country. Yes i agree with you there, thank god those kuwaiti oil wells are still pumping, it would have saddened all our hearts immesurably had they been forced to become slaves of those 'communist oppressors' or whatever the iraqis was supposed to be at the time.

I did not miss your point, a point that was using only one set of facts and not looking at the whole picture. As for Kuwait ask them about their feelings toward their country and their oil wells. * note the use of the word "THEIR"

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Originally posted by Grand-Ranger:

And you STILL have the gall to judge us.

Good,I am so glad you dont live in America.

And you dont think it is a good thing that you are gaining a perspective from someone who is not involved in either side of the war?

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And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels)

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Originally posted by AzureWolf:
And you dont think it is a good thing that you are gaining a perspective from someone who is not involved in either side of the war?

Not when its that idotic.

I dont mind people who dis like America, for whatever reason, they can say stuff about it all they want.

But no, I simply cannot take it when there is a post like that.

As Yorrick said...get some facts first

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Originally posted by AboveTheRimYo:
Though i cant say i agree with people using an RPG board to spout off about terrorism, ive finally buckled & decided to have my 2 cents worth as well, so here it is:

Its a fact of life, that if your a bully at school, and you go around bossing people, telling them how to live, and beating up those who disagree with you (your just protecting your 'freedom' to be obnoxious to others right?) then sooner or later some of the kids you've picked on are going to join together & have a go at you, even if its only to prove they dont like being pushed around.

Of course, if your by far the biggest, toughest kid in the school then everything that you do is 'right' and 'good' and 'the only way' since no-one can beat the crap out of you (usually all that kind of kid understands) to prove otherwise. an IMPORTANT thing to realise is that sooner or later a new kid will come along who's tougher, and will knock you off the top of the hill. Watchout when that happens, because everyone who you've bullied while you were no.1 is going to take advantage & get theirs back on you, and some people have very long memories.

Even the "Holy" Roman Empire crumbled into nothing after 1000 years of glory. No 'bully' ever stays at the top forever, no matter how much self-reighous rubbish he spouts to his followers in trying to keep his gang together.

Most bullies (in my experience) never learn this lesson, and continue to victimise, lecture, or provoke whomever they please right up until they are brought back to earth with a broken nose. Then all of a sudden they find themselves being unpopular, and wonder why are other people cheering my suffering? Ive never, ever, hurt anyone else before.........have I?

THANKFULLY the world is too big a playground for just one bully (im sure lots of dictators in third world countries would love the job though).

On a different topic, ive noticed that a recent terrorist attack on some American buildings has been blamed (not PROVEN yet, just blamed) on a group of Muslims from Afghanistan. Ive also noticed that most Muslims hate the idea of Jews currently occupying Jerusalem, and its also a fact that America gives Israel 100 BILLION dollars a year in 'foreign aid' (you have to love terms like that one) as well as supplying the Jews with the vast majority of their weapons, despite publically remaining "neutral" on the issue.

As with most dilemmas, the easiest solution may be to find a scapegoat as quick as possible (who should be publically burned at the stake just like in the good ol' middle ages) , completely ignore all of the issues and moral ramifications involved, and hope that life will go on as usual, because after all- the 'good guys' got their man, or a least someone to blame for everything.

Often those who refuse to look inside themselves would prefer to live in fear of what they might find, rather than face the struggle of conquering their own inadequecies.

Do you agree that your fellow Australians are on our side of this Strike against Terrorism?

PS: You don't personally believe that the Taliban and Bin Laden were the ones responsable for the attacks? There IS proof, they have shown it to many leaders, it's just very classifyed data.. there may be spies in the Taliban and reported that they said they did it.. PLUS, those hikackers that did this--many of them have been linked to Bin Laden.

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Ziroc, are you saying he's an Aussie?

By the way Ziroc, will i be banned if I unleash on this guy? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/tdo9.gif

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And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels)

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Originally posted by Liliara:
Ziroc, are you saying he's an Aussie?

By the way Ziroc, will i be banned if I unleash on this guy? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/tdo9.gif

Be nice... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif, Am I saying he's an Aussie?? Hmm.. Er.. uh.. maybe... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Originally posted by Ziroc:
Be nice... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif, Am I saying he's an Aussie?? Hmm.. Er.. uh.. maybe... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Oh come on Ziroc, just a little unleashing? I'll be as nice as I can! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/tdo9.gif

You know, along the lines of "my goodness man, when will your orders come accross to make your attack?"

That would probably take it too far though, no?

Hmmm... maybe I should keep my opinions silent. Never mind then! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels)

The USA is NOT perfect but neither are we the SOLE blame for the worlds ills. Yes I love my country but I am not blinded to it's faults. In my life time most of it's mistakes were due to bad judgement NOT malice or evil intent.
Afghanistan is a perfect example after helping the Afghans defeat the USSR we backed off and let them have their own country. In hindsight that was a bad judgement call not evil malice. In 1979 we had 52 people take'n hostage in a fundlementalist Islamic nation (Iran) and did not want to be medling in Afghanistan's govt. We learned a lesson.
If usama wants to be pissed at us for being in Saudi Arabia He first better get pissed at the Saudi's. All of the air force bases built in the dessert were built in the early 80's with the blessings of the Saudi Royal Family. For the purpose of the USA coming in and helping defend Saudi Arabia, incase they were needed, low and behold SodamInsane and his boys do their tap-dance through Kuwait. We didn't kill the puke because of the Arab nations in the coalition.

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Hotel room with roof access $100
A clean Head shot on that sack of Horse Manure Usuma Bin Laden PRICELESS!

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Originally posted by John D Harris:
The USA is NOT perfect but neither are we the SOLE blame for the worlds ills. Yes I love my country but I am not blinded to it's faults. In my life time most of it's mistakes were due to bad judgement NOT malice or evil intent.
Afghanistan is a perfect example after helping the Afghans defeat the USSR we backed off and let them have their own country. In hindsight that was a bad judgement call not evil malice. In 1979 we had 52 people take'n hostage in a fundlementalist Islamic nation (Iran) and did not want to be medling in Afghanistan's govt. We learned a lesson.
If usama wants to be pissed at us for being in Saudi Arabia He first better get pissed at the Saudi's. All of the air force bases built in the dessert were built in the early 80's with the blessings of the Saudi Royal Family. For the purpose of the USA coming in and helping defend Saudi Arabia, incase they were needed, low and behold SodamInsane and his boys do their tap-dance through Kuwait. We didn't kill the puke because of the Arab nations in the coalition.

what I respect you the most is your strong faith in your own believes, and a logical reasoning that seem to pop between the words