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Sir Degrader 07-16-2004 02:26 PM

Yes but what I think that he was getting at wast that Middle Eastern hijackers wouldn't want to kill 300+ arabs every time they did a Suicide attack. it would slightly dimish their standing in arab eyes. About El Al, it's a good airline, but their Stewardesses aren't as nice as Luftansa's [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 07-16-2004, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]

Morgeruat 07-16-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
<font color=skyblue>I responded to the editor with this e-mail...</font>

After reading your story, I wanted to share what I thought about the fourteen men. It is not entirely unfeasible to imagine that they could have been performing a test, carrying out actions and performing tasks that were innocent in itself, but then they could call back to their superiors and let them know that they had not been stopped in their odd behaviors. That would tell the future bomb-makers about how smoothly a future operation or terrorism might run. Does this theory make sense? See where I am going with it?



Larry

Winston-Salem, North Carolina

I think that's exactly what they were doing Larry, if they had wanted to blow up the plane by assembling a bomb in midair, by the time air marshals had a chance to act (or took the moment to act) it would've been too late for that plane.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 07-16-2004 02:46 PM

A truly chilling article... but I stopped reading in depth and started skimming the moment I saw "Ann Coulter".

Donut 07-16-2004 03:17 PM

Very worrying! Michael Moore would be proud of you all.

"Then another man from the group stood up and took something from his carry-on in the overhead bin. It was about a foot long and was rolled in cloth. He headed toward the back of the cabin with the object. Five minutes later, several more of the Middle Eastern men began using the forward lavatory consecutively. In the back, several of the men stood up and used the back lavatory consecutively as well."

Why would Muslims use the toilet at the same time? (Hint: Feet.)

What could be a foot long and rolled in cloth? (Hint: it's a mat, you kneel on it and you pray)

Welcome aboard Paranoia Airlines!

Live your life in fear if you want. Don't be complacent, be aware, but please don't be ridiculous!

Black Baron 07-16-2004 03:24 PM

Arrrgh, Timber, you have found a flaw in my plan. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

But then you can restrict some flying zones to all the planes and develop a good train/bus network instead.

Donut 07-16-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Black Baron:
I fly only EL-AL company (our national one) it is 300% safe.
I have a very good solution of how we will solve the conundrum. Middle east citizens will fly only in their own country's planes. Let them bomb Saudi arabia airlines packed with 100% arabs, i can't care less (not that i have anything against them, i simply do not care). Every one that was born in middle east (or one of his ancetors was born there) is to be considered a citizen of middle east. I guarantee you that there would not be hijackings or bombs.

I can assure you thet EL-AL is only 100% safe.

As for the other business. Shoe bomber Richard Reid flew from Paris to Miami on an American Airlines flight. He was a British citizen flying on a British passport. His father was Jamaican and his mother was white English.

Which airline should he have travelled?

What you are suggesting is facism pure and simple. How will you identify these "middle-eastern" people? Yellow Crescents stitched to their clothes?

Timber Loftis 07-16-2004 03:48 PM

OMG -- the dread F-word rears its ugly head. Yellow Crescents on their clothing wouldn't work -- clothing can be changed. I was thinking numerical tatoos.

Black Baron 07-16-2004 04:09 PM

Can't do numerical tatoos. This is waaay over line.

How i identify people from middle east? Simple. By their passport. Reid is an exception. I am sorry, but it is either that, or sending baggage on separate plane, and having everyone stripped before the flight. I flew on lufthanza and their security is a joke. Little girl (maybe 4 years old, if that) with her doll was not checked. The fact that the doll could be full of C4 escaped the minds of the security guards. If i was a terrorist, the plane would have crashed after 1/2 an hour.

Grojlach 07-16-2004 05:25 PM

I got more scared by some of the responses in this topic than by the article itself, to be honest.

frudi_x 07-16-2004 06:21 PM

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Then another man from the group stood up and took something from his carry-on in the overhead bin. It was about a foot long and was rolled in cloth.
this is a joke, right? must be, because i think i was laughing out loud when i read this...

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Do I think these men were musicians? I'll let you decide. But I wonder, if 19 terrorists can learn to fly airplanes into buildings, couldn't 14 terrorists learn to play instruments?
paranoia's bad, m'kay...


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