Um, if I were a NATION, I'd file suit with the ICJ and bring resolutions before the UN Security Council. Palestine doesn't have that option.

Note that if the neighbor builds the fence over the property line, and you ignore it long enough, courts will hold you to have given up your right to the property. But, so long as you're fighting to keep/regain it, this rule (a "statute of limitations") doesn't apply.

I liked this quote - as if Sharon wasn't just a large obstacle. As stated previously in this thread - it takes two to tango [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Can't tell you that - but I'll give you some laughs anyway [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] ....... ;)

Update: I think Isreal decided to let him stay after all.

Israel should have killed Arrafat years ago. Why must they be forced to deal with this monster. In fact they should let their snipers take him out.The Palestinians are idiots for letting this guy stay in power. He's brought nothing but suffering to them and he has stolen hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars from them. He's just another two bit dictator not a statesman.

Palestine should have killed Sharon years ago. Why must they be forced to deal with this monster. In fact they should let their bombers take him out.The Israelis are idiots for letting this guy stay in power. He's brought nothing but suffering to them and he has stolen hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars from them. He's just another two bit dictator not a statesman.

Anyone can repeat lies and engage in rhetoric...How about something factual for a change?

[ 09-13-2003, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: Skunk ]

The Israeli administration never said that they would expel Arafat imidiatly. Rather it is a statement of intent - Israel will not negotiate with Arafat (and will throw him out if the oppotunity arraises)

hello there to all of you. it seems that i am the only israely here. how about a view on things?

First of all i will adress skunk. What are your sources of info? Cnn? bbc? they are as objective as you, which is to say none at all. I live here for over 13 years now, close to 14. (I am however 19 years old, immigrated to israel from russia when i was 6). I hear always "he is their chosen one". Welcome to new facts dear skunk! Arafat was never their chosen one. he is from Tuniss band of marauders, terrorrists and **********. Our "dear" left movement behind the back of our parlament -knesset-and behind the back of the government brought him here alongside with 25000 Sons of a*****. They did it on the basis that it could not be worse (they thought that the first intifadah was bad. hah!). The palestinians never asked him to be here. He was imposted on them by Oslo limited. Now they hate us because of it. And you know what? i understand them. The "elections" were won by his secret police.
I know arabic very well. studied it for six years and did final exams on it with the final mark of 88%. I read their press almost fluently, and whatch their news and understand almost every word. And then i decided, 2 years ago, to check their history books. I have a palestinian friend (his father built our house), and he showed to me his history book. Israel there is "cionist criminal world movement achievement". As a state it does not exists. All of the lands (including the 67 borders) are under controll of the state of palestine. They say that all the jews that live here are criminals etc.
What are we taught in school? While i agree that we do have some idiots that claim that they are sons of the satan, they are a minority. If they teach that and are caught, they are thrown into jail. See the difference?

another thing, skunk, Arafat ordered the munchen olimpiade terrorristic act. he is nice person, i agree! he is a saint! In a satanic cult though. With him we are forced to negotiate, because of our leftists.
Do you know that the palestinian terrorrists entered our land in 1980-ies, entered a school and killed there teacher and 7 children? the name "maalot" says anything to you? and now guess who ordered it. right! abu-amar. (arafat)
Arafat bathes in blood, like a leech from hell.
And now answer me-Is he nice? is he good? is not he supposed to be killed out of simple justice?? Where are all the billions of dollars that he was given? maybe they went to support terror, do not you think?

BTW -Hitler was also democratically chosen. So?
Now to some expressions. Rabid israelis. "Rabid", skunk, is a word that is used for a dog, not for a nation. If you use such an judophobical source of info, than my friend, this source is not worth mentioning. reminds me of some Goebbles's favorite sentences.
And you say-israel does not want peace. you are not a "baaz draconian", you are a diviner or a mind-flayer. You can read minds! really go to circus there your talents will be fully shown. You know what an entire nation wants. Bravo!! Bravovissimo!! The crowd applauds!!!
We want peace. The majority. we are tired, but we are forced to fight, because he is in power. Do you know that he gave a shelter in his residence to wanted terrorrists? He is a terrorrist.
We are not angels. We made mistakes and we still do. But! We are democrats, and sharon will go home in the next elections (not the closest ones). Arafat is in power for what? 12 years? more? he is such a failure that given his failures he should be long ago sacked. But he is not. therefore he is a dictator, because there IS an alternative leaders. the ones that do not come from tunis, for example. Palestinians cannot overthrow him, because he controlls private army that came with him from tunis. they have guns, cars, food, money. The lockal palestinians do not have it. if we do not like sharon, we have opposition. The opposition wanted peace, and brought him to power, so we would have peace. But all of us according to you , do not want peace.
Either go to circus to amaze people, or stop talking about things that you have no clue about, using moronic sources of info.

Sharon also has to go. Someday he must do it. If lapid will come (the centrist) than we will have peace, relativly quick.
The fence should be gone to 67 borders, i agree. And the majority of our settlements (a totally incorrect word. The arabs use word that means-legacy of fathers, the same as we use. But the west does not use it. go figure). shall be gone too. Jerusalem should be international, and the palestinians will disarm their terrorrists and accept that they will not have refugees into our land (within 67 borders).
This is how i view it. We shall not give 100% of the territories, it is impossible economically (we have to place the people from there, somwhere in our land, which will cost more than 30,000,000,000 dollars USA. (30 billion). But we will return 95 or 97 percent.
By the way, o holy americans, i must ask you a question. Why you do not return new mexico? and texas? why you ask from us to do things that you do not do? Why russia still holds kaliningrad? why it is always "israel must return". As soon as you will return everything to indians, then we will talk. Do remember your past please.


And for the final accord-name one pogrom against arabs prior to 1929 in palestina (a name imposed by romans, has nothing to do with palestinians), that the jews did?
I can name the opposite. "meoraot tarpat"-the events of 1929. the jewish settlement was massacred in hebron.

Shalom Black Baron. Just wanted to let you know that you are NOT the only Israeli here. There's another one, although he's not here too often. I saw him a few times in the Morrowindforum. ;)

thanks,good to know. So why did not he teach skunk a lesson?

[ 09-21-2003, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: Black Baron ]

Because we don't hold with "teaching people lessons" here, we try to discuss things respectfully instead. As the Genieboy, one of our moderators, would say: Argue the point, not the person.
You might want to read the Terms of Service (click the Rules and Regulations button at the top right corner of the screen) to learn more.

Anyway, welcome to the forum! And Johnny's right - I've seen people from Israel around here before. [img]smile.gif[/img]