FF, not all people think like you, remember that. Personally I can't stand the people who've cast me out, but I would never resort to any sort of violence, or anything else, to get revenge. Some people might see it QUITE a bit differently though.

And even if it takes something MORE than bullying to drive them to a shooting lessening the bullying would STILL make it less likely to happen.

And when I say an outcast I mean just that. Someone who is cast out, in this case just for not being like everyone else. Personally I'm an outcast just for not drinking alcohol.

Possibly the expelling was somehow connected to being an outcast? Being an outcast isn't exactly pleasant, so it might have been a mental strain that drove them to do something which got them expelled.

I always wonder where kids get this kind of firepower.
I know some family's in the US own handguns, but I've heard story's of automatic machineguns and grenades!!!

It Scares Me. I Don't Know If This Is What Sparked This Thread, But Today I Heard On The News About A School Massacare In Germany. 7 Teachers Killed Or Summat After A Pupil Was Expelled... Its Sickening, Tragic And Sad

Yes, I think you said everything already. Sickening, tragic and sad.

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somebody in the tv/movie market is glorifying the violance
that is copy acted out in our schools.
somebody needs to make hollywood to get rid of the violance
glorification.
look at the rap and hip hop music propaganda "don't learn the
white man's knowledge, stay dum like the rest of the hood".

wow... a six year old shootin' another... what is the world comming to?

Why is it the American GOVERNMENTS problem? The US government is somewhat different than that in other countries, in the USA it is not supposed to be the nanny of the people. The role of government in the USA is not supposed to be social engineering.

This is an issue of parents and society, these problems are local individual issues. Where do these kids get guns? where do they get money? Why are their parents not aware that their children are psychopathic? It comes from parents treating their kids like adults instead of children, or worse yet, ignoring their responsibility as parents. The blame is not the governments, it is the parents and the teachers....these are the two sets of adults that spend the most time with these kids.

The government has only one responsibility here, and that is to make sure that each states laws are constitutional and the state laws should be prosecuting the criminals who do these terrible crimes.

sorry ..pet peeve there....people abdicating their responsibility and accountability and dumping it on the government...very stupid thing to do.

EDIT: Obviously I err was ranting about the situation in the US, the terrible tragedy in Germany may or may not be related to the same issues.

[ 04-26-2002, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

This is all so very tragic. I just now heard about a terrible shooting and loss of life at a school in Germany on the news. .

"The white man's knowledge"??

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Careful, you're walking the line there pal - this board does not allow racist messages of any kind.

i blame it on the media. if no one heard about the first major one in colorado. it wouldn't have become such a common thing.