i never found a good use of the flail of ages. I cariied it around since i got it and always kept thinking this will be useful for someone, it never was even though i kept it right till the end of throne of bhaal. I think Jaheria is probably best with a good scimitar.

OK, I won't say this is the final word on the Jah vs. Vickey debate- as Russ says elsewhere, it's a matter of taste. BUT, I have a game saved that has both Jah and Vickey in it. I don't remember the levels, but Jah is at least about the same as Vickey. As our story opens, my group is sitting around at the Copper Coronet. J and V get into a catfight over Attalus, the Paladin. They challenge each other to a duel to the death. J has 88 HP, Vickey 74. I flip a coin to see who goes first. Vickey wins. From then on it is:
Viconia-attacks Jahiera
Viconia-critical miss
Jahiera-attacks Viconia
Jahiera did 7 damage to Viconia
Jahiera did 3 damage to Viconia
Viconia-attacks Jahiera
Viconia-did 21 damage to Jahiera
Viconia-did 4 damage to Jahiera
Viconia-did 22 damage to Jahiera
Viconia-did 4 damage to Jahiera
Jahiera-did 7 damage to Viconia
Jahiera-did 3 damage to Viconia
Jahiers-did 9 damage to Viconia
Jahiera did 3 damage to Viconia
Viconia did 20 damage to Jahiera
Viconia did 4 damage to Jahiera
Viconia did 21 damage to Jahiera
Jahiera-death
Viconia finished with 48/74 HP. Jahiera has Blackblood, Viconia Crom Fayer, which, like tha Flail of Ages, Jahiera can't wield.So, like I said, doesn't prove anything, except that Vickey is a better tank, at least in that game.

if you give jah some strength modifier, e.g. girdle of stone giant strength, then i think jah would've won that fight. Improving jah's strength imho will make her as good a tank as any other single class fighter.

Give both of them Full Plate Mail.

Give Viconia Crom Faeyr

Give Viconia the Sentinel Shield

Give Jaheira the Impaler +3

Give Jaheira the Girdle of Hill Giant Strength

Cast Ironskins on Jaheira

Cast Draw Upon Holy Might on Viconia

Cast Blade Barrier on Viconia

Cast any other buff spells on both of them

Do not cast offensive spells( like Insect Plague), as we are testing out their melee abilities.

If I had to lay a wager, I would bet on Jaheira. Yup, you read that right, I would bet on the NPC that I always kill in my games.

Bear in mind that this is not taking ToB into consideration. If Jaheira had Greater Whirlwinds... Viconia would not even last one round... okay, maybe two rounds... ...

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Cast Draw Upon Holy Might on Viconia
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Just out of interest why cast draw upon unholy might when vicconia already has a strength of 25 with the crom faeyr?

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by andy the assasin:
Just out of interest why cast draw upon unholy might when vicconia already has a strength of 25 with the crom faeyr?<hr></blockquote>

To boost her DEX and improve her AC.

Jahiera has:Red dragon Plate and Shield, Hill Giant strength belt, Helm of Balduran, Blackblood. (Don't have Impaler). Vickey has Gorgon Plate, Helm of Defense, Shield of the Order.No spells or potions allowed. The point is, who's the better tank, and in that game, Vickey surely is, 10 times out of 10. I'm sure you could move stuff around and get a different result, but then you always can.

I know! I know!

<font size="10">Fistfight!!!!</font>

No armour, helmets, or any equipment at all! Just their clothes and fists!

:D

Then we can have a fair fight. ;)

why have cloutes? cant they just fist fight with out any thing at all? just jokeing...

personaly, i really dont like etherm but i dont think i played them right, jerina always played up front, i ignored spells, and really screwed up on geting her disentigrated, vic, i gave her a chance but she just didnt seem worth it at first, guess i should have given her a chance. how about both of them together? but then my party whould have both of them, arie, imoin, and minsce. that party is ok but really missing the guys. its my guy and minsc holding back people while the spell slinger they their best till the badies get there, then arie need protection, and imoin has a chance of geting screwed. jerina and vic might be able to hold their own... but not if its a huge party of monsters... now i really want to try this party out...

WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILER
I will have to give Jaheira credit on my game at least.
I had Both in my party, both armed with the best Weapons&Armor in the game (yes I cheated and created the stuff boo hoo!). Any I'm now at the end of ToB Having Completed SoA and I'm sorry to report Viconia=Quasit food (got chunked during the fight with the drow BhaalSpawn talk about Irony)
Jaheira=still kicking and doing some good damage to Melissan I might add.

But Just for kicks I think the next time I play through I'll referee a little cat fight. Jaheira vs. Viconia no armor no spells, I might give them each an ordinary dagger, and let'em go at it.