Already in the cave. I got pass the Hogar earlier. Tonight I will attempt to take him down (wait until his back is turned?); of course while crossing my fingers.

i've done the same ASG. if i want to go that way early, i just stick to the bushes and try to sneak around! ;)

Except when your surrounded by a horde of 12 army ants... Them and their bs movement speed.

i know what you're saying SM, but that's not too different from real life. some creatures are quick. have you ever tried to outrun a bumblebee that's decided your shampoo smells divine?

perhaps it crosses the line where reality is no longer fun (eg feeding a party in an rpg), but i think you'll find more people appreciate, or at least dont mind, it than hate it.

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UPDATE: HOGAR GOES DOWN EASIER THAN GREGOR!!!!!

I didn't hesitate this time. I waited until he turned his back and ran up behind him. I had Frodo (Rogue) chuck the Concussion Powder at him and... INSTANT RESULTS!!! The powder did 85 damage and knocked out the hogar for the remainder of the battle. The hogar had 451 hit points when I faced him; now his face is buried in the ground along with his dead body. 2 MINUTES (literally)!!! The damage from Legolas's (Samurai) bow, Gimli's (Fighter) woodsman axe, Aragorn's (Ranger) raiper & poignard, Gandalf's (Bishop) magic casting, Frodo's (Rogue) sling, and finally Sam's (Bard) doubleshot sling and spike stones brought him down easly.

As of last night, I am now in Arnika. I had my first death. Gandalf fell after backfiring a frost spell and was knocked down to 5 hit points. Sam snatched his life when he fumbled his bagpipe and it struck my party instead. Gandalf the Grey fell... but Gandalf the White has emerged from the ashes (changed his name and personality). I have rescued Vi. I'm going to use her. When I find RFS, I'm going to use him too.

My party looks like this now...

Aragorn/Ranger - Bloodlust and Poison Dagger / Low Bow and Arrows
Legolas/Samurai - Long Bow and Arrows / Ench. Katana and Waz
Gimli/Fighter - Hand Ax and Bearded War Axe / Bipennis
Gandalf/Bishop - Monstrance / Dual Shillelahs (lvl. 2 spells)
Frodo/Rogue - Sling and Stones / Short Sword and Baselard
Sam/Bard - Doubleshot Sling and Spike Stones / Short Sword and Baselard
Vi/Valk - Morning Star and Hammer / Spiked Spear

Thats all for now... I'll keep you updated...

[ 10-31-2003, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: allstargoaly ]

I am about to start a party of four myself. First time for me. I am going to run a party as follows:

Elf Lord
Human Monk
Elf Ranger
Human Bishop

I haven't the time or patience for training stealth, shield etc.. and I really dislike dual classing so these guys are going to have to take their chances. I may do a bit of magic training for the Bishop to avoid any backfires from his own spells though lol This party is from a book I read so due to role playing the monk will not learn any spells, in the book she was basically a highly skilled martial artists so this is how I am going to play her. Wish me luck! I have a feeling I'm going to need it lol

groovey, starfire. you might find that a fighter or rogue might help survivability in place of the lord or ranger, but i understand the role playing goal.

out of curiousity, what is the book?

Yeh, but I recommend a Rogue switching to Lord for a small party. You get the locks and stealth. The stealth goes up pretty fast, and you can train dual weapons for both. Good carry over. I don't normally go for dual classing. Sometimes it makes sense, it is working for me in the current party. He was a good rogue and a better fighter. A Lord will do as well. The downside is a Lord takes a few levels (5?) to get any magic and the Rogue has none. But you don't need stealth, it just helps your armor rating and who will be targeted next. Locks? Hmm, you need someone with that skill.

Sultan: It's actually a series called "The Cleric Quintet" by R.A. Salvatore perhaps you've heard of it? I'm a big fan of Salvatore and am planning on running another party based on his dark elf series featuring Drizzt Do'Urden. That party will be 4 members as well, Drizzt, Bruenor, Cattie-Brie and Wulfgar.

zig - rogue to lord, hmmm, that's interesting. the dual weapons bonus would add more to combat than the l&t bonus, but the backstabbing bonus... and as you mentioned, the spellcasting would be seriously gimped - why not just to fighter?

although i agree that a party needs l&t (i ALWAYS play with a rogue and/or bard), many people swear by supplementing the poser's cap with spellcasting. i dunno [img]graemlins/uhoh2.gif[/img]