Yah, but it's OK to stand around mixing potions until you have a ton o'bux and 100 Alchemy?
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I also like to run the sequence of the game backwards, going straight from the Monastery to buying spellbooks at Gigas to the Mountain Wilderness, where i pick up the Dread Spear, Staff o'Doom & Winter Wand, and Diamond Eyes on my way to the Retro. That's my challenge--set myself up to walk through most of the game by barely surviving the acquisition of the tools for it. The point shouldn't be, "you're doing it wrong," but rather, "look how many ways there are to do it!"

Yeah, mixing potions is necessary if you want to buy books early. At least with pure alchemist you don't have to train it before you have 50 alchemy, it get there around level 5 or something.

Yeah, me too. I also like to go to some harder areas in the beginning, and my party is still effective with the alchemist. It's a great class. To spice things up, I also play expert and ironman mode, even though it's not much difference between ironman and normal game, it's still a little different.

I don't quite understand, do you people really think it's so bad with alchemist over bishop? I said all those reasons above and how I play the game, you should say "wow, yeah it's really a great class, I haven't thought about it that way", not being negative and say "well, the bishop can do anything and is much more powerful".

It's about usefulness and effectiviness. With a bishop, I can end the game at level 18, but with an alchemist I can end it by level 20, so the high level spells will be more useful with an alchemist at that time. As I said before, I play the game fast, so an alchemist fits perfectly in my party.

[ 05-09-2002, 02:49 AM: Message edited by: el_kalkylus ]

I just think all the pure casting classes are very underpowered compared to the bishop. And I don't see much of a problem with mana (of course for an Alchemist it will be alot less than a Bishop as they can't learn nearly as many spells per realm) as there are plenty of mana stones, potions, and the fountain in Trynton you can place a set portal next to (or is that a "cheat" too?). My Bishop just fires away from all the different realms and maybe now and then chugs a mana potion in between battles, mana has never been a problem. He doesn't use throwing weapons at all now, just has the staff of Doom for quick fights where spells would be overkill.

Also any class can learn thrown/sling and throw the powders/bombs, so I don't see what this has to do with the "power" of the Alchemist. Why you would have a caster use items for spells when he can cast them confuses me, seems the items would augment a magic-less character like a rogue or fighter and just be redundant with a spell caster. Also rogues and fighters can dual wield and dual throwing helps them develop that skill faster. But everyone plays differently so if you enjoy the pure classes more power to you, most other people here don't seem to see it that way though.

I love pure casters, and alchemist is my favourite too. And unlike bishop, he can use all the stix stuff (and they're cute sometimes).

Gimli, this is sad. Obviously you haven't understood my points, so I won't waste my time trying to convince you.

I have a alcemist related question. I don't understand what potion mixing is about. Combining two potions to get a new one right? But all I've ever got was a pickmeup potion, which I admit, is rather useful, but can other potions be made? If so, what's the formula?

I'm sorry if you find constructive criticism "sad" Kalk, what can I say, I don't like pure casters. I'm saddened that you're saddened, lol ;)

Milotin, i have no idea how to set up a link, this is the first forum i've ever had anything to do with, but i knowif you use the search under Alchemy or Potions, one of those threads has a link to a site with lists of things like mixing for skill and profit.

I have a great link here: http://www.geocities.com/jandrall/

Gimli, it's just that it annoyed me that you kept talking about things that I already explained. That showed how little you have understood about what I wrote, or perhaps you haven't read it at all. I won't waste my time with you further...

Hey el_kalkylus, thanks alot for the link. I didn't even know about the 3x shot X-bow. (sad huh?) That link was everything I wanted and more! Guess this'll keep me occupied for quite some time :D