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Gabrielles blades 04-17-2003 10:36 AM

anyone got a link to a site diagramming an order to read series of dragonlance books in?

Dreamer128 04-17-2003 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Gabrielles blades:
anyone got a link to a site diagramming an order to read series of dragonlance books in?
Try the official site. Its kind of hard to mark a specific order, though you should start with Chronicles.

Timber Loftis 04-17-2003 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Azred:
<font color = lightgreen>The Forgotten Realms world was a really great place with a lot of promise, until people like Ed Greenwood began to ruin it. Then came the Time of Troubles--ugh. Then they started all that Kara Tur, Maztica, Al Qadim stuff and doing off-the-wall plots like the "Chosen of

In short...neither.</font>

Funny post.
1. Ed Greenwood *created* FR, it did not exist until he showed up at TSR one day with reams of maps and papers detailing the world his gaming group played in. Why do you think he wrote the original boxed set. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]
2. Kara Tur and Maztica existed before the Time of Troubles. They were boxed sets, in purple and white boxes respectively.
3. Otherwise, I agree with you.

Timber Loftis 04-17-2003 09:09 PM

I find it especially ironic that the title of this thread includes a phrase that is only 1 letter away from FORGOTTEN REALISM. [img]graemlins/evilhaha.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/yippee.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Rimjaw 04-18-2003 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Dreamer128:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gabrielles blades:
anyone got a link to a site diagramming an order to read series of dragonlance books in?

Try the official site. Its kind of hard to mark a specific order, though you should start with Chronicles. </font>[/QUOTE]There's a chart lying around somewhere on the net. But here's my take:

1. Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
Dragons of Winter Night.
Dragons of Spring Dawning.
(The original trilogy, THE BEST)

2. Time of the Twins
War of the Twins
Test of the Twins
(First two books were so-so, last book was good. Not as good as the original trilogy but continues the story of the brothers and it was fun to get to see most of the interesting characters return along with some new ones.)

3. The Second Generation. (A collection of 4 or 5 short stories detailing the lives of the Heroes kids. Not very interesting, a sign of thing to come, which is....)

4. Dragons of Summer Flame (The Worst, the story of Chaos destroying his childrens creation of Krynn was eerily similar to Weis and Hickman destroying their own campaign setting of Krynn in this book.)

5. The War of Souls Trilogy (Haven't read this yet but what I heard isn't good)

As you probably know, W&H farmed the series out to other less established artist (great moneymaking venture btw), of these I recommend books by Douglas Niles, Richard Knaak and The Combat Engineer books by Weis and Perrin. All others should be viewed with suspicion.

Iron_Ranger 04-22-2003 12:49 AM

<font color='white'> DL is way better then FR.

Better characters, better plot, its more 'focused' then FR. Tas comes back the War of Souls Trilogy? I just started reading Dragons of Fallen Sun. </font>

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 05-20-2003 06:07 AM

I would have a hard time deciding which world would be my favorite.
I think that the "Drizzt" stuff would ultimatly decide it for me; but
I read and enjoy both.

LordKathen 05-20-2003 07:02 AM

<font color=lime>I have read about 30 of the DL series. Have not touched the new stuff, for fear of it ruining my vision of Krynn. I have heard many bad reviews of the 5th age. I am reading "Dragons of Summer Flame" right now. I took a long break from fantasy, to read non-fiction science material, came back to find out they released this book. Quite a surprise what happens to Tanis. My favorite trilogy of all by far is "The Dwarvin Nations" by Dan Parkinson. I loved it. [img]graemlins/awesomework.gif[/img]

I have not read any Forgotten Realms material, but have "played" in the world alot with BG, etc.
I think I am to biased towards DL to read any FR.

The picture I get here, and other places, is that DL is better than FR acording to popular vote. So, why the hell dont they make a game for DL?!? I mean can you imagine a game like BG set in Krynn? Would be fantastic!!!
Anyway, my two cents are worth even less than that, so there you go. ;) </font>

Morgeruat 05-20-2003 08:53 AM

As far as games set in Krynn, there were a few, back in the old gold box game era (ie Eye of the Beholder engine) alongf with a ravenloft adventure or two and at least one dark sun. I think the reason they didn't do a dragonlance crpg with the infinity engine is simply because 1: Forgotten Realms is TSR/WotC/Hasbro's flagship product (until 3E D&D anyway) 2: many many people were disappointed by 5th Age and they would have wanted to tell tehir own story rather than rehash an old module or two, and 3 the games (most anyway) are set in a semi-current time in FR, doing so in dragonlance would necessitate using 5th age products (see reason 2) 4: Dragonlance requires alot of changes to the basic ruleset (ie paladins AND solamnic Knights are valid classes, Kender special abilities, Tinker Gnome PC's- ok so Jan is essentially a tinker gnome with some bonus powers-, Elven Paladins are allowed, Irda -'nuff said-, etc etc)

things that break from standard D&D and are alot of fun to read about or rp, don't necessarily translate well into CRPG's

Guinness 05-27-2003 02:08 AM

A personal opinion is that the Dragonlance series is like Raistlin's revelation about the snake which consumes everything... runs out of stuff and ends up consuming itself. Seems like just one big money spinner. Another bad thing is that the DL characters seem to have been prostituted to every tom dick and harry writer that wishes to write about the Dragonlance world. That has the effect of disrupting the character development and general impression.

The Original series of Dragonlance [Chronicles, Legends + Tales I, II) was probably the best and they really should have left it alone. Dragons were mighty and feared above all..... kinda like the classic fantasy storylines. The level cap of the original Dragonlance series although limiting in some ways, really did help to keep everything believable too.

Forgotten Realms is almost a totally an opposite world. With almost godlike characters possible and the world itself is so huge. So it actually makes great campaigning AD&D-ing, but from a book/literature point of view is almost too huge to write about. I think for most people FR revolves around IWD and for those computer players BG and such. I have read all of RA.Sal's stuff and various misc books and other minor bits.... frankly the "Avatar" series was a real let down. Others again range from mediocre to really good....


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