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Originally posted by Obsidian the Black:
I'm sorry to all you sorcerers out there, but wizards are SO MUCH BETTER! For one thing, their key stat is Intelligence, which gets you extra skill points. What does the sorcerers Charisma get you? An extra 100GP every time you complete a quest and colect your paycheck? Whoop-de-doo. For another, wizards sure get higher level spells a turn sooner. Sure, you cant cast them as often, but I have no problem resting for a minute between meteor storms. Finally, you get the variety of all the spells in your spellbook (which, if you diligently copy scrolls, is nearly every spell in the game). This is a huge advantage: if you know what your up against, you always have the spell there weak to. If your going up against an opponent with high spell resitance, easy, switch to enchantment spells. Need to identify something? Dump a spell memorixe identify, cast it, and replace it with somehing usefull. Hard lock to pick?Memorize cats grace four times, rest, cast them all pick the lock, and replace them. Not sure if a spell will work out well? Try it out a couple of times, then replace it with a sure thing. Sorcerers will only get to use 25% of the spells in the game, and wheres the fun in that?

Ohh, and wizards get free metamagic feats! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

Nice Versus Books Strategy guide book you have in front of you, Obsidian the Black!!! :D

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Originally posted by theholyavenger:
Nice Versus Books Strategy guide book you have in front of you, Obsidian the Black!!! :D [/QB]

LMAO! I knew that sounded familiar! I think he added a little bit though! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-17-2002, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: Redblueflare ]

Hey, but its true guys!! [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

Buff spells like cats grace and bulls strength do not stack.
Nor do potoins with the same effects.

Just thought I would save you some time.

WIZARDS ARE BETTER!!!!!

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Originally posted by magnetism:
WIZARDS ARE BETTER!!!!!

I agree, mostly because you can rest at any time (unlike the pnp game). You could always fight one tough fight, change your spells, rest, then fight the next fight. The extra castings of a sorcerer just means that you rest less often. And you do not need to use the stone of recall to rest. Clear a room, close the door, and rest. Saves money in the early stages. The game is very generous in this way (unlike BG2, where you were likely to wake up to uninvited guests).

You gain your higher level spells a level quicker (makes a difference). The high intelligence leads to a lot more skill points (you really don't need a high charisma to persuade when you have a bunch of skill points in it). You get bonus feats on top of that.

Once you get to higher levels, where you get a lot of spells regardless of whether you are a sorcerer or wizard, the difference will be less felt. While sorcerers do have a great advantage over BG2 in being able to unlearn spells, I just think that wizards have an overall advantage over sorcerers. Now, if you wanted to play a character that is purposely limited in their range of spells (i.e. a character that uses fire magic almost exclusively), then the sorcerer is your best pick. But if you are planning on having any significant amount of versatility, then pick the wizard.

ah I see resting. well i tend to play on HCR servers so when you have to wait 15 minutes between rests all those spell do come in handy. Oh if ya take a level of paladin then a high cha is nice sinc eall the cha bonuses get added to your save throws.