Oh oh oh. . . . I just got a sinister idea, not sure if it would work though.
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When fighting Aec'Latec (I think that's how it's spelled; it's been awhile), use the cloak on his disciples. Dunno if it would work, but hey its worth a try, no? He'd have to kill his own followers, and leave no opening for a reincarnation. (would they leave such a large loop-hole in the game?)

The Cloak isn't in BG2 at all, it was so overpowered. You can still hack it in, I believe, but that's the only way. And, as far as I know, no MOD has been written that brings it back.

I don't know about you, Firestormalpha, but when I'm down in that room I've got slightly better things to do than Charm cultists. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color=33CC33>OK, another question: Is there any way of getting the cloak other then stealing it from Algernon?</font>

You can kill Algernon to get it, but then you will loose reputation.

I think the programmers wanted us to do the following:
1) Talk to Pheirkas to get knowledge of the cloak.
2) Find Algernon and steal it.
3) Go back to Pheirkas with the cloak.
4) Drop your jaw [img]graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img] when you see the reward.
5) Reload the game and keep the cloak ;)

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Insane

[ 04-25-2003, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: InsaneBane ]

Yes Firestormalpha, you can Charm the Cultists and get them to help you, I remember doing it and found an old posting back in July 2002 where I explained this. At the time I was using a small party (numerically) and needed a little help, so I used Dire Charm, but I am sure the Cloak works just as well. As you say it's a nice role-playing touch to turn them against their Master.

My other comment about Algenon's Cloak concerns it's success rate, which I found to be very high. On the few occasions that the target resisted, I am fairly sure I got a message " Save versus Breath Weapon" which is totally weird but may explain why it is hard to save against. Can anyone confirm this?

It does show as save vs breath weapon from what I remember. As far as the cloak not being in Bg2 - that may be the case - but I may have brought it in on a characters back.

To get the cloak - you can use a hex editor and change something into the cloak or gate keeper.

Yep, the Cloak does indeed force a Save vs. Breath Weapon, which is usually garanteed to be the a target creature's worst Save. About the only people who could make their Save more than once were high-level Warriors, such as Flaming Fist.

<font color=33CC33>Well, thx for the compliment, SoS. Although I still have to make 2550 posts to become 20th lvl warrior, I already have high saving throws ;) . You can't charm me easily...</font>