I don't know if it's immune to imprisonment and can't test it right now (how's that for a meaningful contribution) but wouldn't you die if you were imprisoned as the Slayer?

Slayer is immuned to Imprisonment. It is a valid tactic against Demi-Liches.

Come again? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you saying your Abazigal thread was meant to be in here?

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On a side note, unless there is some sort of life or death emergency going on, you might want to seriously consider avoiding shortcuts. It can really make your posts much more readable. Making 'be' into 'b' is not abbreviating, it's just plain madness. </font>[/QUOTE]Yes and people who don't know those shortcuts (like me) think that you are mad because the sentences are silly. Please I know it takes more time but type every letter [img]smile.gif[/img]

I think the slayer/death issue makes logical sense when you consider just who the PC is, the prophecy and of course the Bhaalspawn aspect that the slayer represents. I see it as a kind of madness if you like. A schizoid severing of personalities, whereby death has come as a result of the slayer taking over the PC's mental state.
You can survive for a short time remember...but its potent force and bloodlust is always pushing, pushing, forcing itself further into consciouness which eventually if left untended, the mind breaks down.
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@Dundee. Plain madness? Would you prefer unique madness then? [img]tongue.gif[/img] (Not to say I don't agree with you on the issue of course) ;)

[ 05-20-2004, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: CerebroDragon ]

Interesting discussion, though there are some points to make. One, the Slayer form is not all powerful in that I have yet to see it imune to time stop. Two, the two alternative slayers which are seen in the game in the challenges were beaten by the fighters in my group. Three, has anyone other than me noticed how long the Slayer form lasts before harming your PC when you reach the throne of Bhaal.

What pisses me off about the Slayer is the Reputation loss (-2). It makes sense in most situations, as being seen as an avatar of a dead god of murder should really piss some people off. But, I don't think it should amount to a hill of beans when there's nobody around to see this transformation (like when fighting a demi-lich, or in the underdark).

From what I understand, there's a mod that takes care of things like this... The one that seperates evil actions from negative reputation... Perhaps someone can refresh my memory?

Well, party members witnessing the change may not approve. Hence the reputation loss.

I can see it now:

Aerie: Look everyone! He/She's the Slayer!!! RUN!!!!

The only use I have ever seen with the Slayer is fighting Demi-Liches when there aren't any Spell Immunity scrolls around, and when I'm too lazy to charm a Mind Flayer to open one of their complex doors. Reputation loss though? Not really a big deal, considering you do a godly amount of quests in the game to make it rise anyway.

The Slayer itself really isn't the most powerful thing that you can turn into, but I guess if you add in a couple HLA's during the change, he would be half way decent.

I really don't think that you should die during a slayer change. I know that you have the essence of a god taking over you, but I don't see it as something that should kill you. Look at it like this, when you transform, you lose points of reputation, start losing control of your PC, and depending on how long you lasted, it'll cause damage to you afterwards. Too many penalties just to be killed in the end anyway. They should have made it where depending on how long you lasted, when you return to your normal form, there would be some kind of stat change. Considering having the essence of a god of death, it would tax your mind or your constitution and so forth, being temporary of course.

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