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Rataxes 09-14-2004 09:39 AM

Jaheira cannot use Crom Faeyr, and I don't see anyone in your party particularly suited to use it. Not assembling the hammer will give you more STR-enhancing items to divide between your party members. Better that several have decent strength than that one has super strength, particularly when it doesn't seem like anyone in your party would benefit much from it.

[ 09-14-2004, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Thrain 09-14-2004 12:59 PM

@JrKASperov

the thing about giving clerics the crom is, the buffs which make them a viable tank override the strength enhancements.

for example: the buffs to make a cleric a tank - holy power, righteous magic, draw upon holy might.
that gives the cleric the THAC0 of a fighter, extra HP and strength and then some more strength, dex (improving AC) and con (giving more HP)

a high level cleric (and by this i mean the end of SoA) can feasibly get 23-25 in str, dex and con with DUHM alone (giving the main benefit of the crom in one spell PLUS extra AC, HP and natural regeneration). a cleric is far more effective weilding the FoA than he is weilding the crom. even Annoyman, who can be set up to dual weild effectively, benefits more from combos which include the defender of easthaven in his off hand than he does from the use of the crom.

the best characters to give the crom to are fighter/mages, fighters and bards.

Moon-Child_Lman 09-14-2004 01:09 PM

As i said before, your archer is an excellent character to give the Crom Faeyr.

Andraste 09-14-2004 01:47 PM

I never bother making Crom Faeyr, even when I have all the parts. Crom Faeyr requires 2 strength enhancing items, plus a hand to wield what is otherwise a fairly ordinary hammer. I tend to feel you are better off having 2 enhanced characters weilding FOA, Celestial Fury, SotM, blackblood or whatever.

Thrain 09-14-2004 04:27 PM

a fairly ordinary hammer that gives a fighter godlike strength. im not sure what the numbers are, but the THAC0 bonus over the strength belts is pretty damn good.

[ 09-15-2004, 05:25 AM: Message edited by: Thrain ]

Userunfriendly 09-14-2004 05:34 PM

look at this from a rational perspective...

thrain is correct, crom is wasted on a cleric...the buffs a cleric can use is as good as the 25 strength, or better...

so if you have a pure fighter in your party, the crom is worth making to turn him/her into an uber fighter...

but is it worth losing the gauntlets of ogre power and the belt of giant strength? for some parties, yes, others no...

but by the time you're ready to hit (deleted), you should make it, since you're close to end of the game, and (deleted) has a good strength belt in the loot..and its the last chance to make the item...

Derfel Cadarn 09-14-2004 05:46 PM

Annoyman.


hahahahaha! Annoyman, hahahhaha!! rofl... damn that's a damn good laugh.

Andraste 09-14-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thrain:
a fairly ordinary hammer that gives a fighter godlike strength. im not sure what the numbers are, but the THAC0 bonus of the strength belts are pretty damn good.
Does anyone fancy doing the sums?

a) Minsc, dual wielding celestial fury and the FOA, wearing the Girdle of Frost Giant Strength

versus

b) Minsc dual wielding Crom Faeyr and either FOA or celestial fury

I suspect there won't be much in it, and option a) lets somebody else wear the gauntlets

Tremor Break 09-14-2004 06:28 PM

Thing is if i use my archer i won't be using Crom Faeyr in the party at all..

While if i use my Skald which i rolled
10 Str
18 Dex
18 Con
18 Int
14 Wis
15 Cha

soo i wanna try the Skald i just can't seem to click with any of the chars, i know it sounds stupid but i just can't find a main char i like. Archer is nice and strong but i dont wanna be a ■■■■■ and hide at the back because thats how hes been made. He is a lowbow archer no 2ways about i..

So i will make this Skald i think, I will Take
Skald
Keldorn
Imoen/Yoshimo till then
Edwin
Jaheria
Anomen

umm does any1 kill Edwin their i no the party an't ballanced as in way of Alignment, but are well i just keep the Rep around 12 or 14 for most of game not hard..

Thrain 09-15-2004 05:23 AM

noone there will kill edwin.

and minsc dual weilding CF and FoA is an ineffective combination. but lets not get off topic.

most people will only use strength items to enhance their fighters (and perhaps viconia). in a balanced party that has assembled the crom, there should still be two belts left (frost and stone i believe). so assuming you are using buffs to enhance your cleric, that is three fighters who can get strength enhancements. and that is still not enough for you people?

[ 09-15-2004, 05:31 AM: Message edited by: Thrain ]


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