Wraith has AC of -20. What is Mazzy's THAC0 with Gesen? If her THAC0 is -5 she'll hit him on every fourth shot, but I doubt that her THAC0 is so low.

Check that out before you fight.
Hey, it's a NRL game. You don't go out there and hope! You must know what you are doing. ;)

So check out the Pontifex stories too.

Good luck!

BTW, I already started an evil NRL game with Kensai/mage (dualled at 9), Jaheira, Viconia, Edwin, Korgan and Jan.

(It took me 4 hours real time to get out of the dungeon. :mad: )

I think Mazzy's THAC0 is easily -5, she's a fighter with grandmastery in shortbows and a high dexterity to boot. Give her the bracers of archery and you have a low THAC0 to say hello to.

Just realize that Wraith of Wrath also has 300 HP and I believe is immune to all other damage except physical. So electrical damage from Gesen will not affect him.

And if you assume of THAC0 of -5 and damage around 10 per hit (and GM patch + Improve haste which gives you 9 ApR) then she hits him approx. twice per round for 20 damage. So it takes you around 15 rounds to kill him. If you count critical hits then even sooner. But it is still a long way to go.

In my game Haer'dalis killed him in 1.5 rounds in Time stop. :D

The Wraith has a base AC of -20, so when you factor in his DEX and Ring of Gaxx, you're looking at -26. My last party steamrollered right through him, but when it's led by a Level 15/18 Kensai->Mage whose Simulacrum can read TimeStop scrolls, it's nice to be able to ignore things like AC. (The weird thing is, even though all attacks under Time Stop are supposed to be auto-hits, I had an ApR of 9, yet only 4 or 5 of those would connect. It took my Simulacrum 3 TimeStops to kill the Wraith, even with the massive damage he was doing with every hit.)

The Orb's SI:Abj was indeed my suggestion, but frankly I still haven't seen any difference--neither of my Tactics Version 20 parties have had much difficulty with him. Of course, I usually don't even see the Orb until the Dragon and perhaps the Sword and/or Wraith are dead, so his best protections will have worn off my then, leaving him very vulnerable to the old chop-chop.

Viconia's MR (indeed, any MR) makes no difference in this fight, as Irenicus's damnable Shatter Magic lowers MR by 50% each time, and of course Jon-boy can Shatter Magic until the cows come home.

New thought--perhaps my Kensai-Mage's low apparent ApR wasn't an illusion: It might be that the Level Drain caused by casting Simulacrum knocked the character back into the Dual-class, meaning his Kensai half was rendered Inactive again. This would give him the same ApR as any other pure Mage, Dualwielding with Improved Haste: 4.

I got Mazzy up to level 16 since I took her to spellhold when my kensai was Imprisoned. Her THACO with Gesen is -7 right now with the bracers of archery and Helm of Balduran. Equipped with +2 arrows it becomes -9. And she will make it to level 17 by the time I do the ritual, Pontifex, Suldenesalar and Hell Trials. Heck maybe 18 but I doubt it.

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Wow! Tell us what happened!?

I got careless. Whenever I get close to the final battle I start rushing through the rest of my quests. I didn't have to reload since my protag didn't died but I have no desire to go on really with the loss of two more companions.

I picked up Mazzy and headed off to do the ritual. I wasn't paying attention while I was fighting some battleragers and totemists when a shadowstalker snuck in and backstabbed her for 196. No Mazzy kinda hurts after you guys scared me with the Wraith's stats. Disappointed, I went ahead and finished the ritual sort of half heartedly hitting whatsherface with a panic in the end.

Moved on to Pontifex and took care of him. I was able to get his protections down with a couple seperate RRoR, I think. He still had the little spell turning frisbe underneath him but my spells still got through. A few Ice Storms from Jan is really what did the trick with him.

After this I packed everything up and gave Elhan the Lanthorn and headed to their city. Like I said before I always have a problem rushing at the end, here especially. So I just ran up and down their sidewalks meleeing everything and then headed for N'izidragonguy. I even rested first. I don't think I've ever been beaten by this dragon before so I didn't even bother to buff much, just PfME and fear. I figured I'd walk right in and timestop yada, yada. I started casting timestop and decided to lead in with my Inquisitor and a dispel magic. I walked right into a dragon breath of 108 damage and before I could get out of range got hit for 136. Inquisitor chunks everywhere. Dumbest thing I did here - forgot to equip Carsomyr. Her MR with that is 85, so I probably wouldn't have taken damage from the breath. After I killed the dragon and looted it I walked out without getting my dropped equipment either.

I don't feel very ambitious about finishing this thing off. I kinda want to start a new one. If I do, my next party is gonna be an all kit party - I'm thinking Skald, Bounty Hunter, Wizard Slayer, Stalker, one of the cleric kits, and one of the specialist mages.

Sorry to hear that. These games make you stay focused until the end. It's a good practice for life situations. ;)

I'm having fun with my evil NRL party (already in the Underdark) but I miss on a lot of XP since I'm soooo evil. :D

I poisoned the Druid Grove (1000 XP from that evil sucker whose quest I accepted, bah), killed the Sahuagin since I had no plans to be their puppy (no XP!), I plan to kill Adalon (missing 60000 XP per person!), ...

And I already have plans for a little custom NRL party without the Sorcerer.

I like your idea of a kit party. (starts planing ...)

DAMN! It looks like you've picked up the pace from that 4 hour dungeon exit. ;)

I think that's one of the reasons I lost interest in my game. Same spells over and over. If I ever use another Sorceror I'm going with a complete spell makeover.