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shamrock_uk 03-05-2004 04:56 PM

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How about Irenicus - he spends all that time trying to get you to realise your true potential and use your soul, but then his plan all along was to take it.

I can understand the experimentation in the dungeon - he's just finding out what the soul is capable of. But why all the dream sequences encouraging you to to make better use of your soul etc when he's just planning on taking the thing anyway? [img]graemlins/confused2.gif[/img]

Lord 03-05-2004 05:09 PM

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How about Irenicus - he spends all that time trying to get you to realise your true potential and use your soul, but then his plan all along was to take it.

I can understand the experimentation in the dungeon - he's just finding out what the soul is capable of. But why all the dream sequences encouraging you to to make better use of your soul etc when he's just planning on taking the thing anyway? [img]graemlins/confused2.gif[/img]

When you're encouraged to use your power (Imoen does it in a dream, a fake Imoen though), it's after you've already lost your soul. Imoen tries to convince you to become to Slayer and use your power that way. The Slayer takes over you because you no longer have your soul to fight it off.

ZFR 03-05-2004 05:34 PM

I believe shamrock means those dream sequences before you rescue Imoen i.e. while you still have your soul. And in at least two he definately encourages you to make full use of your god powers.

shamrock_uk 03-05-2004 09:22 PM

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I believe shamrock means those dream sequences before you rescue Imoen i.e. while you still have your soul. And in at least two he definately encourages you to make full use of your god powers.
Yup, just started running through yet another game and it just occurred to me.

There's the one where he brings that woman to life and asks if life is enough for you. If you turn down the power he's trying to show you because of the consequences, he says "you *will* accept the gifts offered to you"

Also the one where he tries to get you to embrace what you are and rise above being mortal - "even creatures mysterious and magical will fall etc"

karlosovic 03-06-2004 07:29 AM

I dont think those are really Irenicus. I think its the taint and your mind puts his face on it.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 03-06-2004 06:18 PM

I was thinking along those lines, Karl. That's why the person doing the tempting can 'switch'... I won't delve into a discussion of the mind and dreams for a computer game... without being asked... but suffice to say that dreams are full of symbols, and the mind will attach faces to things that aren't always what they are in the waking world.


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