No need to flame someone for wanting to be cheesey. If Userunfriendly wants to power game, let him go ahead and power game. It's not like you can physically stop him anyway. </font>[/QUOTE]i actually don't mind at all...

you see, not only did i invent and write the cheese guide, i am a constant cheeser...

and ares, i suspect i am far far far worse than you ever were... ;) ;) ;)

http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/cheese_guide.zip

i really have to update it one of these days...sigh...

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No need to flame someone for wanting to be cheesey. If Userunfriendly wants to power game, let him go ahead and power game. It's not like you can physically stop him anyway. </font>[/QUOTE]The only problem I had with UUF's post: how exactly WOULD that little trinket be of any use to Dalamar in his (her?) current situation? He's looking for a way to beat up Lavok, not steal his lunch money. ;)

No need to flame someone for wanting to be cheesey. If Userunfriendly wants to power game, let him go ahead and power game. It's not like you can physically stop him anyway. </font>[/QUOTE]The only problem I had with UUF's post: how exactly WOULD that little trinket be of any use to Dalamar in his (her?) current situation? He's looking for a way to beat up Lavok, not steal his lunch money. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]urm...sorry...ok, dalamar, if you can steal his lunch money, he's blue circle...so have yoshimo under improved invisibility plant a few traps after lifting his ring...at the most likely level of doing the planar sphere, yoshi is not going to be that powerful, but will hurt lavok...helping you whack him much easier...urm...a non cheesy way would be to cast insect swarm on him...disrupt his spell casting...

[ 12-07-2003, 05:48 AM: Message edited by: Userunfriendly ]

<span style="color: lightblue">If you realy want cheese, multiple backstabs are more than possible in this situation... and all you need are two items, of which you should have atleast one (if not both).

[ 12-09-2003, 04:16 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

yea, make 5 skelletons and group them around him, then use valygar with dispel arrows (hopefully you have stolen some) otherwise use breach and the like, in my experience he dies after one breach- i had valygar with twin katanas on him which chipped off att of his stone skin while minsk was hurting him with the cold/acid/fire dammage from the flail of ages. make viconia leard death ward, this will help you against the death type spells.

good luck/

i never found hin hard...cause i never got to him until after underdark