well about party level....edwin is about 18, my mage/cleric is about 13/13 viccy is about 17-18 yoshie baby was about pfth..dunno 19?20? asomehwere about there.

its just i find imoen obnoxios.....always complaining...not as bad as anomen (who i usually blow up with a fireball or something so i can on no accounts EVER get him)

and besides, i'd spent a REALLY long time getting yoshi's skills up and he had nearly 100 in all the useful ones.. (pick pocketing, hiding, setting traps etc.).... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

If you are a hardcore Role-Player, why would you want to take Yoshimo back? He's a traitor!

jan is best thief in game...if you can stomach turnip stories...

imoen can absolutely take care of all the thief stuff you need in the game...and no turnip stories..

Jan is the only thief in the game who can level up AND you get to keep.
Imoen can take care of the stuff you absolutely need a thief for (traps, locks).
If you really want a good thief you'd have to play a thief PC or cheat in Artemis Entreri.

Simply because he was forced to be one through a Geas. It is far easier to conceive that the PC will forgive Yoshimo were he/she of good alignment.

well my PC is chaotic neutral and i'm semi roleplaying....sometimes evil sometimes good...wherever my mood takes me [img]smile.gif[/img]

also THANK U! i'd forgot about jan....i might pick him up...then i'd still get to have a nearly all spellcaster party (only tank is minsc, and thats jsut becuse i'd miss him too much to let him go)

i'm gonna have to decide between jan and yoshi...but thanx for all yoru help....

Of course, you could use a Valygar/Imoen combo. Covers both locks/traps and backstabbing. You still miss trap setting and detect illusions, but still hit both big areas.

Of course, you could use a Valygar/Imoen combo. Covers both locks/traps and backstabbing. You still miss trap setting and detect illusions, but still hit both big areas. </font>[/QUOTE]interesting idea but i have a full party exept for wanting to dump imoen. i don't really want to loose another party memeber and also i'm trying to go throught the game with as little fighter like characters as possbile (minsc is the exeption as he's special [img]smile.gif[/img] )