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Assassin 04-03-2003 06:41 PM

With a Fighter/Mage/Thief, you could get even better AC by adding in the Amulet of the MAster Harper. And there is the White Dragon Armor, which is -2 AC. Add that in with the Ring of Earth control.

[ 04-03-2003, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

Dundee Slaytern 04-03-2003 10:39 PM

Assuming SoA, and Default SoA only... this is what I can come up with.

Ignoring AC modifiers versus weapon type.

End Game Spoilers

Warrior

Armour of the Hart = -2
18 DEX = -6
Ring of Gaxx = -8
Ring of Earth Control = -9
Cloak of the Sewers = -10
Helm of Balduran = -11
Sentinel Shield = -16
Defender of Easthaven = -17
Nine Hells = -19

This is the undispellable base AC. With innate abilities and combat boosters, it is possible to temporarily breach the -20 mark.

Butterfingers 04-03-2003 10:49 PM

How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

Pirengle 04-04-2003 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butterfingers:
How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?
That 9 INT and 6 WIS sound a lot like Minsc...

Jon Irenicus 04-04-2003 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Pirengle the BNM:
</font><blockquote>Quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Butterfingers:
How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

That 9 INT and 6 WIS sound a lot like Minsc...</font>[/QUOTE]IIRC it "IS" Minsc...

Jim 04-04-2003 05:19 AM

A few points:
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  • Klutz, the ring of Gaxx allows the user to cast invisibility, not improved invisibility, therefore the +4 AC bonus here won't apply</font>
  • Six, the Girdle of Glory provides a +3 AC bonus against slashing weapons only, therefore this can't count towards base AC
    Quote:

    What dex gives you a -5AC bonus? If 20, might be able to achieve -5 by BG1 import of race with natural 19 dex
    The next AC bonus due to DEX occurs at 21. The only ways to get a natural 21 DEX are:</font>
  • Start BG1 with an elven/halfling character, 19 DEX. The tome will boost this to 20. Then, in BG2, you could get a bonus point to your DEX in hell (provided that your primary class is a thief) to make this 21. There is also potentially a further +2 DEX that can be achieved in ToB (one of these again assumes thief), making the best natural DEX 23 (and the next AC bonus point isn't until 24 DEX)</font>
  • Start BG2 with an elven or halfling character, 19 DEX (either as single, dual or MC thief). You can then get +1 DEX in hell, and a further +2 DEX in ToB, granting a maximum of 22.</font>

Dundee Slaytern 04-04-2003 05:27 AM

I think SoS is talking about the Item Upgrade's Girdle of Glory, which confers a bonus of -3 to your base AC. The Golden Girdle is the one with the modifiers against slashing weapons IIRC.

Jim 04-04-2003 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I think SoS is talking about the Item Upgrade's Girdle of Glory, which confers a bonus of -3 to your base AC. The Golden Girdle is the one with the modifiers against slashing weapons IIRC.
Ah, of course, I was indeed thinking of the Golden Girdle, although Six said: "It's standard BG2 and no crazy MODs...", so I automatically ruled out the girdle from the Item Upgrade Mod.

Dundee Slaytern 04-04-2003 05:34 AM

I think by no crazy mods, SoS meant that it required no game-breaking mod items.

Jim 04-04-2003 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I think by no crazy mods, SoS meant that it required no game-breaking mod items.
Ahh, but if the Item Upgrade Mod is installed, then it's not standard BG2 ;)


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