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Sodomatic Goat 11-12-2002 02:51 AM

Yeah I did all that, but Irenicus didn't send any thieves, no thieves showed up at all, I only fought mirrors of my own party.....

Seraph 11-12-2002 04:45 AM

After that he says "Why am I wasteing my time here...blah...blah...blah"
Then he sends in some minions (thiefs) to keep you busy while he makes his escape.

Tyrion 11-12-2002 05:20 AM

The order of the radiant heart are racists...they don't allow anyone but humans to join...

Sodomatic Goat 11-12-2002 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Seraph:
After that he says "Why am I wasteing my time here...blah...blah...blah"
Then he sends in some minions (thiefs) to keep you busy while he makes his escape.

yeah but noone showed up! End of story! I hate Yoshimo, even though he was forced to do it!

Dundee Slaytern 11-12-2002 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by Sodomatic Goat:
yeah but noone showed up! End of story! I hate Yoshimo, even though he was forced to do it!
Well... they are invisible until they attack and backstab you, so it is possible that you walked out of the area not knowing that there are 6-7 invisible Thieves chasing after you.

Sodomatic Goat 11-12-2002 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Well... they are invisible until they attack and backstab you, so it is possible that you walked out of the area not knowing that there are 6-7 invisible Thieves chasing after you.[/QB]
I seriously doubt that, I walked around looking for loot and hidden treasures for quite some time....
Well I don't understand it... I try to do something different next time I'll play...

ronan 11-12-2002 06:43 AM

Not only is it racist but it favours the hirsute as well, I mean BALDur's Gate, oh yeah lets have a laugh at those folicley challenged.
While we're at it what about the poor doors? I mean it has to be a gate and all we ever do to the poor doors? Force them or pick (on) them! Why wasn't it Neverwinter Doors? Surely it was their turn.
Don't even get me started on Black Isle. Jees surely non-determined race Isle would have been much more appropriate.
I am off to search for more ridiculously, tenuosly linked examples of prejudice in games.
Oh and by the way I neither noticed nor cared whether Anomen was black, white, blue, pink or yellow-go-pink.
Get a life!

Sazerac 11-12-2002 11:04 AM

Sorry, but the racism argument is simply not tenable. Two of the extremely "good" characters in the Baldur's Gate series are persons of color: Dynaheir from BG1 and Valygar from BG2. AFAICT, Anomen simply has an olive tan, typical for someone growing up in a semi-tropical climate. (Brynnlaw's not that far south, and it's DEFINITELY tropical, as is Tethyr).

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Yes, Yoshimo "betrays" you, but he's hardly to blame; Irenicus captured him and placed a "Geas" on him which forced him to take the actions that he did. By returning his heart to the Temple of Ilmater, you undo the Geas that was placed upon it and free his soul.

Should we consider BG2 to be racist because Black Isle made "elves" the bad guys (Bodhi and Irenicus)? :rolleyes:

-Sazerac

Keraptisdm 11-12-2002 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrion:
The order of the radiant heart are racists...they don't allow anyone but humans to join...
That's because in 1st and 2nd edition DnD rules, only humans can be paladins. The Order is an organization of Paladins.

Morgeruat 11-12-2002 03:20 PM

yes I belive there's an interesting debate about that in the game (if u have Keldorn, I forget who the other person is)


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