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Well, that's very amateuristic, that way every imbecile can make statements based on absolutely nothing. In fact, that's journalism of the same standard as the British paperazzi.

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ARGH!!!!

That ■■■■■■ actually used hollow points as ammo - many of the wounded have severe tissue damage due to the bullets shrapnel in the body!



Yeah Europe is a lot more conservative in regards to weapons - in Denmark were I live it is possible to have guns, but only for hunting ( so a rifle is cool with a permit ) but automatics, guns and shotguns are a no go.
The same applies to Norway - but hunting is a lot more widespread in Norway due to the ruggednes of the country with mountains running almost like a spine through the whole country. This also means that the country is a lot less populated in comparison to area and as such it would most likely be easier to hide something like this.

A few details about this is he used a 950 kg bomb made from fertilizer, the reason that nobody wondered about the fertilizer is that he bought a farm many years ago...as part of the plan that has been 9 years under way as far as the medias tell it today. On the island he dressed as a cop and called the children to him to answer questions in regards to the bomb and then...well 86 people died on the island so far, 7 in the bombing and 20 more are in critical condition.

When it comes to the ideology I do not think this is a widespread problem in Scandinavia or Europe - these terrible incidents are not normal nor are they totally unheard of - but this term "internal terrorism" were people strike at their own country is rare in the western part of the world - and most likely more accepted in lands on the brink of civil war or such...

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It is uncomfortable to think how sad it would be to have a sibling or child of your own murdered like that..

<a href=link=http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/lenke.php?co=EE&page=0>You can show support for the victims, and for Norway, here.</a>

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6 years of preparation...at least. He joined a gun club in 2005 with the aim of getting a gun some time in the future for this. Had a farming company with the aim of buying fertiliser...

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14267007

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Tragic news. Just an interesting side note that may interest WoW playing European members, this guy was apparently (in addition to MW2) a hardcore WoW raider and GM for a while.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2423044048

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Actually Johnny, did you know this guy in Nordrassil back in the day? He may have gone by the name Andersnordic or Conservatism.

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GM ---> Gamemaster

GL ---> Guild Leader


Let's get the abbreviations right mon ami *hehehe*


Truth be told - WoW, MW2 or whatever he played - he has to be one disturbed individual to go around killing people like that. Apparently he actually did listen to several people pleading for their lives - an 11 yrs old kid told him that he had already lost his dad and he was too young to die so he let him be - not that it in any way diminishes what he has done.

I see a lot of people yelling for this guy to get the death penalty - but thats not gonna happen - most likely he will be deemed dangerous for the society and locked away for good in some prison/secure hospital for the mentally insane.

Now had I been a relative I would have yelled for the death penalty too - but as our court systems and penal codes have to objective and not take a personal stance on how to judge criminals it would be a bit hard to kill him. In the end we have to ask if the death penalty would really make a mad man like this discouraged from doing this and I think the answer is no...

...just a thought.

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Guild Master is the official term for the leader of a guild in WoW. Abbreviated as GM. Maybe other games use GL.

That said, having played D&D for years, I hard a hard time accepting the term "Game Master" referring to the person who referees an RPG, always calling it "Dungeon Master: instead.

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Had a long winded reply ready for this but decided to just ask around my guild before posting and it seems I was wrong....people do say GM about Guild Master. I must be defect due to my work at blizz - I know internally we have always called it GL for a guild leader ( of course GL is known as Good Luck in WoW ) ... honestly *sigh* hehe


But....back on track the Norwegian authorities have down graded the number of dead to 68 instead of 86 on the island so a little "good" thing in all the depressing grayness

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LOL in the US we call the guild leaders GMs. We call the Blizz GM Blues.