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Sever 05-05-2010 10:10 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
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Originally Posted by Hivetyrant (Post 1239915)
His terrorist attack attempt was "Halalious"

:hehe: I like it.

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Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1239916)
The problem with these kind of attacks is, amateurish or not, they tie up resources.

And occasionally kill the odd innocent or two when the dice rolls in favour...

The know-how behind the attempt would be comical (dry fertiliser go bang? With fireworks?!) if the underlying intent wasn't so serious. The guy wanted to kill lots of innocent people. I don't imagine any official would consider resources "lost" in an operation that appears to have quickly apprehended the would-be terrorist with zero casualties. It is indeed a good demonstration, good practise, good publicity..

Chewbacca 05-05-2010 10:23 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
It's almost like Wile E. Coyote got recruited by AQ and The Roadrunner is the U.S.A. Beep! Beep!

Did they find an empty A.C.M.E. crate near the scene of the crime?

Sever 05-05-2010 10:31 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1239920)
It's almost like Wile E. Coyote got recruited by AQ and The Roadrunner is the U.S.A. Beep! Beep!

Did they find an empty A.C.M.E. crate near the scene of the crime?

I believe the A.C.M.E crate was still full. ;)

John D Harris 05-05-2010 10:45 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
You're right Wellard, get this.... we got some idiot congressman who wants to deport natural born US citizen children of ILLEGAL immigrants.... I'm all for throwing Illegal immigrants out of the US, but not at the cost of any US citizen. Those children have the same rights granted by the US Consititution as I do, sure thier parents are illegal as "Hale" and deserve to be thrown out, but the US Citizen doesn't.

Firestormalpha 05-05-2010 10:56 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John D Harris (Post 1239923)
You're right Wellard, get this.... we got some idiot congressman who wants to deport natural born US citizen children of ILLEGAL immigrants.... I'm all for throwing Illegal immigrants out of the US, but not at the cost of any US citizen. Those children have the same rights granted by the US Consititution as I do, sure thier parents are illegal as "Hale" and deserve to be thrown out, but the US Citizen doesn't.

But that raises the question, should we break up the family because the kids are legal and the parents are not? Either they all go or they all stay as far as the interests of the children.

Timber Loftis 05-05-2010 11:06 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
Terrorism is so 10 years ago. I'm bored. Hear that, terrorists? You're droll.

I do support giving any person under arrest their full rights. Not doing so not only spits on the constitution, it also increases the likelihood that good evidence can get tossed out. In this case, there were actually ~8hrs. of time between arrest and mirandizing. I feel that's too much, but at least it was done.

That said, it's kinda BS. Mirandizing is a bit silly. Who doesn't know that they have the right to not talk and have an attorney? I think it ought to include about 3-4 other statements, including a statement that the police are under no obligation to tell you the truth and are permitted to try to trick you with false threats.

John D, I'm surprised you support anchor babies. I mean, an Illegal makes a 5 ft hop across a national border and drops her baby and birthing fluids on Arizona soil and -- TA DA!!! -- it's an American. I think the policy is stupid. Send them both back, amniotic sack and all.

Sever 05-05-2010 11:14 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis (Post 1239927)
John D, I'm surprised you support anchor babies. I mean, an Illegal makes a 5 ft hop across a national border and drops her baby and birthing fluids on Arizona soil and -- TA DA!!! -- it's an American. I think the policy is stupid. Send them both back, amniotic sack and all.

:hehe: This is wrong on so many levels. :thumbsup:

John D Harris 05-05-2010 12:40 PM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis (Post 1239927)
John D, I'm surprised you support anchor babies. I mean, an Illegal makes a 5 ft hop across a national border and drops her baby and birthing fluids on Arizona soil and -- TA DA!!! -- it's an American. I think the policy is stupid. Send them both back, amniotic sack and all.

I support the Constitution of the USA, I don't call them anchor babies I call them what they are US citizens, afforded all the same rights as you or I. If I'm going to fight for my rights to keep and bare arms granted by the USC, I must fight for all the rights granted by the USC to everyone else. IMHO if'n I don't I'm being hypocritical and part of the problem not the solution. please don't mistake thinking all US are afforded the same rights, is the same as thinking we shouldn't lock down our border so tight that a cock roach can't cross the border. Nor is it a call for ammesty... it's a call to protect the rights of citizens.

Firstorm, you are right we as a nation better not break up families... which is why I support letting the illegal parents of US citizens stay, until the US Citizen reaches 18 years of age, if the parents haven't obtained citizenship by then, chunk'em out and let the door hit'em in the rear.

Paul Stevens 05-06-2010 02:12 PM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
I'll tell you what I think......

I think it is a difficult question. There is
no way that I could write down a hard-
and-fast rule that would be reasonable
under all circumstances.

But I am almost completely sure that we
must start by closing the border. Nobody's
ideas seem to work well if we don't know
who is here.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 05-07-2010 04:16 AM

Re: GRRRR... The times square bomber
 
Anyone else hear that the guy went to terrorist training camp? Was I the only one who thought it sounded kind of funny?

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