i would be surprised if hollywood booed any liberal with an activist agenda. and his film does slightly more than "tells the people that the sun don't shine out of G Dubya's arse." it defames his character through slander and character assasination. i have no doubt that there will probably be a lawsuit over this movie, and disney certainly has a right to avoid that by denying distribution through one of its companies.

heh, an ovation from people who believe britney spears deserves a standing O? that isnt worth spit from the bottom of my shoes. most of those movie/music stars are less educated than the average american in any case. </font>[/QUOTE]But if they had of booed him, they would have been ok, right ? how dare he make a film that tells the people that the sun don't shine out of G Dubya's arse. </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=deepskyblue>I would have been shocked if they had booed. It is "politically correct", internationally speaking. It says we should never have gone to war in Iraq and is excessivily critical of George Bush (at least that's the implication I got from Moore's comment about "doing everything he can to see that Bush is NOT re-elected this year"). So why wouldn't the Cannes Film audience applaud it? The movie is tailor-made to meet their approval and support their views.

Like I said, I would be shocked if they hadn't applauded it.</font> </font>[/QUOTE]The award isn't so mcuh about the content of the movie as much as it is about the technical direction. The Cannes panel is hardly what one would describe as 'liberal' in nature - but certainly made up of professional film-makers and critics.

You might dislike the man for his opinions, but he is talented.

And headed by Quentin Tarantino no less. Whatever you may think of him, he certainly knows his films...

i have no doubt he is skilled at his means, but in the realm of documentary, i view reporting truth as more important than the particular flair he presents false information with...

Yeah, Skunk, he is talented -- at warping the truth. I hated being lied to by BFC, but I've even gone back and found he misrepresented what was presented to me by a professor as "TRUTH" in Roger & Me.

He splices multiple interviews as if they are one, misreprents facts, and juxtaposes facts with background shots to lead to fallacious conclusions.

Anyone who gives Moore and award before waiting for appropriate fact-checking is just irresponsible. But, as long as it slams GWB, the whole of Europe and Hollywood -- the primary audience/judge/and jury at Cannes -- is willing to be irresponsible. Guess it's okay for them, but not for GWB.

Lanesra shows us how she learns well from Moore -- she juxtaposes an article that is totally unrelated. And, shows the lack of compassion toward GWB -- which is generally one of the many charges levelled against him. It's real easy for those of us who sit here at our computers eating doritos and smoking cigs all day to make fun of the man -- but I bet there aren't 10 members on the whole of IWF capable of bike-riding 17 miles. I'd bet there's not one member on here of his age who could do it. And, that's on top of working 120+ hr. weeks. Shame on you, Lanesra.

Oh, and just to note again -- DISNEY DID NOT FORBID ANYTHING. They did not try to stop him from selling distribution rights. Moore's whining and all the newspapers following him like lemmings just goes to show his ability to misrepresent the facts.

At Cannes he said that after he found a distributor in Albania, you could now see the movie in all countries except 1 -- ■■■■■■■ LIAR!!!!! You can see the movie here, and no one is stopping it. Moore deserves every bit of bad treatment NY Time's Blair got -- he's a damned liar.

Yeah, shame on you Lanesra, silly girl. You really shouldn't hang out that much with your sister Serenity - she seems to have a bad influence on you. ;)

And on the matter of bike-riding 17 miles - you're kidding, right? Not even 10 members? I think practically any Dutchie around here could pull it off easily - and I'm pretty sure there are many other regulars capable of doing it without that much trouble. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon19.gif
For comparison, I run about 7-9 miles a day in total (not in one session, btw). And when I have to go to the train station (7 miles back and forth), to work (5 miles b&f) or simply downtown to do some shopping (1-7 miles, depending on what I need), I go by bike, like most people do around here in the Netherlands.

[ 05-23-2004, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...lm/3740939.stm

[ 05-23-2004, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

Ironic isn't it? here's George trying to stabalise Iraq, when he cant even stabalise his bike [img]smile.gif[/img] And to post before appropriate fact checking is just irresponsible, shame on you Timber.

[ 05-24-2004, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: Lanesra ]

Yeah, shame on you Lanesra, silly girl. You really shouldn't hang out that much with your sister Serenity - she seems to have a bad influence on you. ;)

And on the matter of bike-riding 17 miles - you're kidding, right? Not even 10 members? I think practically any Dutchie around here could pull it off easily - and I'm pretty sure there are many other regulars capable of doing it without that much trouble. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon19.gif
For comparison, I run about 7-9 miles a day in total (not in one session, btw). And when I have to go to the train station (7 miles back and forth), to work (5 miles b&f) or simply downtown to do some shopping (1-7 miles, depending on what I need), I go by bike, like most people do around here in the Netherlands. </font>[/QUOTE]I could ride 17 mile easily, but I'm saving myself for my future husband [img]smile.gif[/img]