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Arnabus, don't listen to MagiK - let 'em bounce all you like. ;)

MagiK, I think there are two sides (or three if you consider Magneto's) to the ethics and Wolvie's "guilty mind." I wasn't making a case, but rather exploring. I'm certainly conflicted on the issue.

I will disagree with your notion about the SR-71 however. Though it may be okay to own government grade weapons, and tanks even (I know a website where you can buy them - Maxim pointed me to it), I doubt Xavier got those. Even if he had, you tell me what Bush, sitting in the White House today, would do if someone showed him that photograph of a military-grade or military-style aircraft with VTOL entering and leaving a basketball court in an upstate New York prep school compound. Pick a body part, and I'll bet you that part that he wouldn't just say "oh, well, neat plane - hope the guy takes care of it." Let's be honest all around here.

Which brings me to another point. After all the hullabaloo throughout the movie (Headlines: "8 Federal Agents killed in Campus Raid"), do you really think he'd still be sitting in the same building teaching classes at the end of the day. I got a feeling Xavier Institute would have had some tanks driven through it or bombs dropped on it before he got home.

But, it's all make-believe anyway. Heck, I read GI Joe as a kid, so I'm perfectly capable of suspending by disbelief. ;)

BTW, as far as I know, the most powerful mutants are
1. The son of Charles Xavier (I hate to admit, I forget his name... Grr)
2. Franklin Richards (son of Reed and Sue Richards)

There are 12 mutants around whom all others are supposed to gather (according to prophecy). Not all have been recealed, but they include
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Storm
Franklin Richards
(IIRC) Danielle Moonstar
Magneto
Apocalypse

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Originally posted by Arnabas:
You are referring to Molecule Man, Mouse.

Nope, it definately wasn't him. This guy was utterly insignificant. IIRC, the FF got utterly trashed (possibly killed) and all he did was want the reality to be different and it was. He didn't even know he was doing it :eek:

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Originally posted by Vaskez:
Heh I guess I am also a bit of an X-Men nerd - but that's from watching all the cartoons when I was younger - not from reading the comics.

How did you figure shadowcat is the strongest? She is a weak little girl - she is the one who can phase through walls and yeah she doesn't get a very big part.

I reckon in the 3rd film they will HAVE to introduce Gambit or the girls in the audience will go crazy :D When I saw it I heard some girls near me talking about how disappointed they were that he wasn't in it.

I bet that they will also show how Hank McCoy turns into Beast in the next one.

Damn I am such an X-Men nerd :D

Stamar - don't you wish they'd put Psyloche in the next movie?

Also you are right, I'd say Magneto was kinda good but he is not afraid of human sacrifice. At the end of the cartoons he takes over leadership of the X-Men too - he is father of that really fast guy - Pietro or something and also another girl mutant whose name I can't remember.

They should also put in that George mutant who helps Mr Sinister - you know the really stretchy one - he's cool :D

Better shut up now

Wanda the Scarlet Witch, she appears more in the Avengers then the X-men.

In the movie the last scene of the lake were they were talking about evolution.

I thought I saw a pattern of a fiery bird in the lake? Was my imagination playing tricks.

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
MagiK, I think there are two sides (or three if you consider Magneto's) to the ethics and Wolvie's "guilty mind." I wasn't making a case, but rather exploring. I'm certainly conflicted on the issue.

I know TL, Mysticelt and I were discussing your devils advocate position last night as a matter of fact...that and that you married a prosecutor [img]smile.gif[/img] 

I will disagree with your notion about the SR-71 however. Though it may be okay to own government grade weapons, and tanks even (I know a website where you can buy them - Maxim pointed me to it), I doubt Xavier got those. Even if he had, you tell me what Bush, sitting in the White House today, would do if someone showed him that photograph of a military-grade or military-style aircraft with VTOL entering and leaving a basketball court in an upstate New York prep school compound. Pick a body part, and I'll bet you that part that he wouldn't just say "oh, well, neat plane - hope the guy takes care of it." Let's be honest all around here.

You are right IF they found this with no proper documentation. If they had actually obtained official government licenses and permits for the airport/hoverport and the aircraft there would have been no brows raised...I know one guy who keeps his jet in a converted barn and has an old cow pasture as a runway [img]smile.gif[/img] (actually he is a classmate of my dads) And seeing as how Prof. X. can be very pursuasive when he wants to be, Im sure you will find all his paper work in proper order ;) 

Which brings me to another point. After all the hullabaloo throughout the movie (Headlines: "8 Federal Agents killed in Campus Raid"), do you really think he'd still be sitting in the same building teaching classes at the end of the day. I got a feeling Xavier Institute would have had some tanks driven through it or bombs dropped on it before he got home.

If they played their cards right they would be back and with a larger government check to avoid a messy public relations nightmare in an election year, the people at the school had some grounds to sue on, since the raid was clearly an abuse of authority [img]smile.gif[/img] We know that Prof. Had all his paperwork signed and sealed in all the proper places [img]smile.gif[/img] 

But, it's all make-believe anyway. Heck, I read GI Joe as a kid, so I'm perfectly capable of suspending by disbelief. ;)

I have been suspended by disbelief on occasion but then gravity always wins and I fall any way, no matter what the road runner does.

[img]graemlins/1drinkspit.gif[/img] Messrs. Muppets, a crusty old coot isn't allowed to be that funny. Controlling the minds of permit inspectors was funny. Buying off the government was funny. Suspended by disbelief was funny enough, but the Wile-E-Cyote bit threw me over the edge.

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that conversation, btw.

[ 05-06-2003, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

of course this begs the question, why hasn't Prof X paid each new president a visit to say hello? ;)

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Originally posted by Rokenn:
of course this begs the question, why hasn't Prof X paid each new president a visit to say hello? ;)

Perhaps he has, and they just don't remember it. ;)

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
[img]graemlins/1drinkspit.gif[/img] Messrs. Muppets, a crusty old coot isn't allowed to be that funny. Controlling the minds of permit inspectors was funny. Buying off the government was funny. Suspended by disbelief was funny enough, but the Wile-E-Cyote bit threw me over the edge.

Thank you kind sir [img]smile.gif[/img] 'tis good to know the intended humor did in fact hit the mark [img]smile.gif[/img] 

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that conversation, btw.

Not much to hear really [img]smile.gif[/img] just considered offering you two a room next time you wanted to visit the nations capitol [img]smile.gif[/img] That and discussed the fact that you played the devils part quite well...maybe a bit tooo well....**looks to see if TL has a tail similar to Nightcrawlers**