All right, I guess I'll claim the WSG as "my" idea and let you promote the Harpers--except that the Harpers aren't exactly "Good" either, are they?

It appears that the Radiant Heart and the Temple of Lathander do have some potential after all, but I think it'd be kind of lame to have the two organizations have the exact same motivation (Bodhi's an Evil Vampire) and quests (kill Bodhi). Can anyone think of qualitative differences between these two paths?

SoS, if you're asking about "qualitative differences" between a Radiant Heart and a Temple of Lathander path, why not have them be working together?

Thats a great idea!!! I mean, they both want the same things, and they are sort of the same, the only thing is that the RH are knights, and Lathanderithes are clerics.

Maybe one of the quests could be to clean out the guarded compound, so that the RH and Lathanderithes could establish their headquarter there. I mean, they could together forge like, a new group, that way, people get a whole new way to spellhold, a new group to help them except it is made out of two old ones.

I mean, the normal Lathanderithes and RH´s would not be removed, they would function just like before, only that they both sent a group of men and women to make a new group.

How about that? Two major Athkala influences uniting under one banner?

I'm not so sure that they'd form a new group. For that matter, simply asking the party to clean out the guarded compound just so that the two groups could have a new HQ seems rather "evil".

I think that these two groups would be working together would be to oppose the current vampire infestation of Athkatla. Destroying the undead is certainly a part of Lathanderite mission. And I just cannot imagine that the Radiant Heart wouldn't be highly interested in destroying the vamps.

Seeing as they send paladins to aid you destroy them all when you ask them for help in the final assault upon Bodhi.

The thing is, the only things different is the quests you will have to do in order to advance onto the assault upon the crypt. It will still end up the same ending as the Shadow Thieves; An attack upon the vampyrs.

Would you want to make a new ending for another group? I mean, you wouldnt want to do the same again would you?

Shadow Thieves - Assault the Vampyr Crypts
The Vampyr Guild - Assault the Shadow Thieves HQ
New Group - Assault New Target


--Kestrel--

I suppose that you could create a situation wherein the target was the entire slaver conspiracy, i.e. at the Copper Coronet, the Slaver "ship", and the Guarded Compound.

And I suppose that the Radiant Heart might be a legit group to care about that.

Or maybe, a new group of demon killers?

The planar sphere and the twisted rune as targets?

I think this has been discussed before but this Twisted Rune is really too difficult for a chapter 3 character to take on, no matter how many quests they have completed prior to get the experience.

And I would imagine that the Planar sphere would interfere with the already implemented Planar Sphere quest set down by the Cowled Wizards.

--Kestrel--

I don't know... They might have similar goals, but their methods are hugely different. It would be easier to have the temple of Helm working with the Order... At least Helm has knights there.

However, I might be a bit biased because I don't like the idea of the temple and the Order working together at all. It sounds a bit strained, like we're grasping at straws.

It there was a Cowled Wizards path, the PS might be a part of that path. However, you'd probably screw it up by siding with Valygar, or at least, by killing Tolgerias within the PS itself.