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skywalker 09-12-2002 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
<font color="#cc3399"> I see it is an article about people..immigrants coming to this country with nothing and proving that in America it isn't just the rich that can succeed....an article loaded with several examples of what this country is all about. I also see he is telling them that while we need to send our armies out, we can also love others as we love ourselves...seems to me it was more directed at the people from other nations living here with us but it works on an international level too I suppose. All in all a cool speach, full of proofs about the promise of America [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>
Hey I just found the speech, I didn't mean to find a link that made Bush look good! ;) (Hang my head in shame! :( )

Mark

Djinn Raffo 09-12-2002 03:43 PM

Hey Thoran its all good! ;)

MagiK 09-12-2002 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
Hey I just found the speech, I didn't mean to find a link that made Bush look good! ;) (Hang my head in shame! :( )

Mark

<font color="#cc3399"> ROTFL Mark....sheesh hehehehe (whew too many laughs today [img]smile.gif[/img] )

Ok to make you feel better, Bush can't take credit for those peoples successes. Only they can take credit, it is they who came here with next to nothing, and succeeded by playing by the rules as they exist instead of taking the "victim" mentality or by falling for the "entitlement" fallacy or worse yet, crying out about discrimination and white oppression.

Only those people and America as a whole can be credited with their ability to succeed! (You can't tell that I really believe in America can you?)</font>

[ 09-12-2002, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Leonis 09-12-2002 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tancred:
It is a shame, but that just seems to be what happens... when something goes wrong or someone screws up but you're not sure who, the finger always seems to be pointed at the guy (country) at the top. It happens in business, in families (I blame the parents...) and world politics, perhaps. Human nature again?
Hey! I thought Australia was on top!
http://australia-fare.com/maps/UpsideDownMap-lge.jpg

Tancred 09-12-2002 09:15 PM

*checks again*

Well, well, I stand corrcted! Well done that man.

The Hierophant 09-13-2002 12:50 AM

I forgot, what's an America again?

The Hierophant 09-13-2002 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leonis:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tancred:
It is a shame, but that just seems to be what happens... when something goes wrong or someone screws up but you're not sure who, the finger always seems to be pointed at the guy (country) at the top. It happens in business, in families (I blame the parents...) and world politics, perhaps. Human nature again?

Hey! I thought Australia was on top!
http://australia-fare.com/maps/UpsideDownMap-lge.jpg
</font>[/QUOTE]Exactly! There's no up or down or top or bottom in space! :D

Donut 09-13-2002 06:14 AM

From today's edition of The Times newspaper:

PRESIDENT BUSH, though famed for his solecisms, is something of a poet after all. Well, of sorts. The following is composed of quotes from Dubya that have been arranged by the Washington Post writer Richard Thompson. It’s too good not to share, especially during America’s National Poetry Month.

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER By George W. Bush

I think that we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It’s a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where
Our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!

skywalker 09-13-2002 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
From today's edition of The Times newspaper:

PRESIDENT BUSH, though famed for his solecisms, is something of a poet after all. Well, of sorts. The following is composed of quotes from Dubya that have been arranged by the Washington Post writer Richard Thompson. It’s too good not to share, especially during America’s National Poetry Month.

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER By George W. Bush

I think that we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It’s a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where
Our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!

Thank You Donut. I can use some good laughs, these days! :D

Mark

MagiK 09-13-2002 09:00 AM

<font color="#cc6699">Lol yeah Bush is no public speaker, and that is a fact. But if you even try to get past the fact that he is lousey at making speaches and listen to what he says instead of how he says it, I think you will find a man with a good heart and honest conviction...something that the Washington Post would never be able to understand. And good morning to you all! [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>


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