Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone. ;) Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think... ;) Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by toriuxik:
Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone. ;) Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think... ;) Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo.<hr></blockquote>

Two words, TIME STOP

*groan*

Anyway, for your information, Skeleton Warriors last for 8 hours. Mages may run out of spells, but a Sorcerer will never run out of spells thanks to Project Image and Wish.

Also, you are still assuming that you can cast the scroll on the Mage. This is like the upteem time that I am repeating this... you cannot cast on an invisible Mage.

lol, nobody ever mentioned sorcerers. ;) And besides, if your mage is aflicted with a scroll that prevents spell casting, he can't cast spells like mirror image or Wish... ;) lol, besides, sorcerers aren't mages. They are sorcerers! lol [img]smile.gif[/img]

Um, timestop was dealt with. The cleric casts the wonderful scroll and your timestop won't really accomplish much. You summon stuff, and eventually, as the cleric can run fast enough, will fall apart. Meanwhile, the mage gets a scroll cast on HIM too eventually. At this time, Its only a matter of time before the mage falls. Invisiblilty wears off eventually, and eventually, all summoned creatures disapear. :> At this time, as the mage is scrolled, he can't do anything but try to run away himself now. ;)

Here I return from being awol for a couple a weeks and to my surprise the discussion still rages on [img]smile.gif[/img]
Good to see that we all still have our favourite kinda character class and still are willing to prove how powerful they are when pitted against the other classes (i.e. cleric vs mage/sorcerer)

Just wondering if in all of this people are considering equipment aswell as spells/power?

Who says that invisibility is limited? So long as I do not make an offensive move, the invisibility stays... forever until the Mage dies of old age or something.

Note: Time Stop is not considered an offensive spell, something to bear in mind.

r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility???

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Glorfindel:
r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility???<hr></blockquote>

Yes, at least for the level 2 spell, <font color="cyan">Invisibility</font>( although we can also mention the Staff of Magi).

Cloak of Non-Detection takes care of invisibility-purging spells.

Thats right, just reequip the staf and ur invisibillity is up again. And with robe of Venca u can cast TS on 4, then u cast around 20 spells in the TS, and The cleric will die when time starts. The mage7sorc have reequiped the staff and are invisible again.